Tillbaka till svenska Fidonet
English   Information   Debug  
IC   0/2851
INTERNET   0/424
INTERUSER   0/3
IP_CONNECT   719
JAMNNTPD   0/233
JAMTLAND   0/47
KATTY_KORNER   0/41
LAN   0/16
LINUX-USER   0/19
LINUXHELP   0/1155
LINUX   0/22012
LINUX_BBS   0/957
mail   18.68
mail_fore_ok   249
MENSA   0/341
MODERATOR   0/102
MONTE   0/992
MOSCOW_OKLAHOMA   0/1245
MUFFIN   0/783
MUSIC   0/321
N203_STAT   900
N203_SYSCHAT   313
NET203   321
NET204   69
NET_DEV   0/10
NORD.ADMIN   0/101
NORD.CHAT   0/2572
NORD.FIDONET   189
NORD.HARDWARE   0/28
NORD.KULTUR   0/114
NORD.PROG   0/32
NORD.SOFTWARE   0/88
NORD.TEKNIK   0/58
NORD   0/453
OCCULT_CHAT   0/93
OS2BBS   0/787
OS2DOSBBS   0/580
OS2HW   0/42
OS2INET   0/37
OS2LAN   0/134
OS2PROG   0/36
OS2REXX   0/113
OS2USER-L   207
OS2   0/4785
OSDEBATE   0/18996
PASCAL   0/490
PERL   0/457
PHP   0/45
POINTS   0/405
POLITICS   0/29554
POL_INC   0/14731
PSION   103
R20_ADMIN   1117
R20_AMATORRADIO   0/2
R20_BEST_OF_FIDONET   13
R20_CHAT   0/893
R20_DEPP   0/3
R20_DEV   399
R20_ECHO2   1379
R20_ECHOPRES   0/35
R20_ESTAT   0/719
R20_FIDONETPROG...
...RAM.MYPOINT
  0/2
R20_FIDONETPROGRAM   0/22
R20_FIDONET   0/248
R20_FILEFIND   0/24
R20_FILEFOUND   0/22
R20_HIFI   0/3
R20_INFO2   2802
R20_INTERNET   0/12940
R20_INTRESSE   0/60
R20_INTR_KOM   0/99
R20_KANDIDAT.CHAT   42
R20_KANDIDAT   28
R20_KOM_DEV   112
R20_KONTROLL   0/13066
R20_KORSET   0/18
R20_LOKALTRAFIK   0/24
R20_MODERATOR   0/1852
R20_NC   76
R20_NET200   245
R20_NETWORK.OTH...
...ERNETS
  0/13
R20_OPERATIVSYS...
...TEM.LINUX
  0/44
R20_PROGRAMVAROR   0/1
R20_REC2NEC   534
R20_SFOSM   0/340
R20_SF   0/108
R20_SPRAK.ENGLISH   0/1
R20_SQUISH   107
R20_TEST   2
R20_WORST_OF_FIDONET   12
RAR   0/9
RA_MULTI   106
RA_UTIL   0/162
REGCON.EUR   0/2055
REGCON   0/13
SCIENCE   0/1206
SF   0/239
SHAREWARE_SUPPORT   0/5146
SHAREWRE   0/14
SIMPSONS   0/169
STATS_OLD1   0/2539.065
STATS_OLD2   0/2530
STATS_OLD3   0/2395.095
STATS_OLD4   0/1692.25
SURVIVOR   0/495
SYSOPS_CORNER   0/3
SYSOP   0/84
TAGLINES   0/112
TEAMOS2   0/4530
TECH   0/2617
TEST.444   0/105
TRAPDOOR   0/19
TREK   0/755
TUB   0/290
UFO   0/40
UNIX   0/1316
USA_EURLINK   0/102
USR_MODEMS   0/1
VATICAN   0/2740
VIETNAM_VETS   0/14
VIRUS   0/378
VIRUS_INFO   0/201
VISUAL_BASIC   0/473
WHITEHOUSE   0/5187
WIN2000   0/101
WIN32   0/30
WIN95   0/4277
WIN95_OLD1   0/70272
WINDOWS   0/1517
WWB_SYSOP   0/419
WWB_TECH   0/810
ZCC-PUBLIC   0/1
ZEC   4

 
4DOS   0/134
ABORTION   0/7
ALASKA_CHAT   0/506
ALLFIX_FILE   0/1313
ALLFIX_FILE_OLD1   0/7997
ALT_DOS   0/152
AMATEUR_RADIO   0/1039
AMIGASALE   0/14
AMIGA   0/331
AMIGA_INT   0/1
AMIGA_PROG   0/20
AMIGA_SYSOP   0/26
ANIME   0/15
ARGUS   0/924
ASCII_ART   0/340
ASIAN_LINK   0/651
ASTRONOMY   0/417
AUDIO   0/92
AUTOMOBILE_RACING   0/105
BABYLON5   0/17862
BAG   135
BATPOWER   0/361
BBBS.ENGLISH   0/382
BBSLAW   0/109
BBS_ADS   0/5290
BBS_INTERNET   0/507
BIBLE   0/3563
BINKD   0/1119
BINKLEY   0/215
BLUEWAVE   0/2173
CABLE_MODEMS   0/25
CBM   0/46
CDRECORD   0/66
CDROM   0/20
CLASSIC_COMPUTER   0/378
COMICS   0/15
CONSPRCY   0/899
COOKING   28533
COOKING_OLD1   0/24719
COOKING_OLD2   0/40862
COOKING_OLD3   0/37489
COOKING_OLD4   0/35496
COOKING_OLD5   9370
C_ECHO   0/189
C_PLUSPLUS   0/31
DIRTY_DOZEN   0/201
DOORGAMES   0/2020
DOS_INTERNET   0/196
duplikat   6000
ECHOLIST   0/18295
EC_SUPPORT   0/318
ELECTRONICS   0/359
ELEKTRONIK.GER   1534
ENET.LINGUISTIC   0/13
ENET.POLITICS   0/4
ENET.SOFT   0/11701
ENET.SYSOP   33806
ENET.TALKS   0/32
ENGLISH_TUTOR   0/2000
EVOLUTION   0/1335
FDECHO   0/217
FDN_ANNOUNCE   0/7068
FIDONEWS   23541
FIDONEWS_OLD1   0/49742
FIDONEWS_OLD2   0/35949
FIDONEWS_OLD3   0/30874
FIDONEWS_OLD4   0/37224
FIDO_SYSOP   12847
FIDO_UTIL   0/180
FILEFIND   0/209
FILEGATE   0/212
FILM   0/18
FNEWS_PUBLISH   4193
FN_SYSOP   41525
FN_SYSOP_OLD1   71952
FTP_FIDO   0/2
FTSC_PUBLIC   0/13586
FUNNY   0/4886
GENEALOGY.EUR   0/71
GET_INFO   105
GOLDED   0/408
HAM   0/16053
HOLYSMOKE   0/6791
HOT_SITES   0/1
HTMLEDIT   0/71
HUB203   466
HUB_100   264
HUB_400   39
HUMOR   0/29
Möte LINUX, 22012 texter
 lista första sista föregående nästa
Text 20006, 73 rader
Skriven 2019-02-25 22:28:57 av Maurice Kinal (2:280/464.113)
  Kommentar till text 20005 av Holger Granholm (2:20/228)
Ärende: Character codes
=======================
Hey Holger!

Note that I am replying on a different machine this time since I am in the
middle of a major overhaul on the raspi3b+ which will take at least another 32
hours.  The Swedish, Danish, and Spanish MøøSGing configurations are on that
machine.  This machine is the English jobber.  I also have a Dutch jobber on a
totally different machine - also a x86_64-pc-linux-gnu host - but I decided to
reply on this one instead.

 MK>> That translates to the '÷' character in utf8 - usually written
 MK>> as U+00F7 or \u00f7 in bash.

 HG> This is also a new sign for my UTF conversion whatever use I may
 HG> have.

An excellent online source for utf8 characters is http://www.utf8-chartable.de/
as they give the 8 bit codes that show up in hex editors to the corresponding
utf8 characters.  For example U+00F7 will show up as a hex 'c3 b7' pair whereas
the small slashed 'o' characters in Møøse show up as 'c3 b8' hex pairs.  So
in bash speak this should produce the utf8 division sign;

-={ '<Esc>:read !echo -e "\u00f7 \xc3\xb7"' starts }=-
÷ ÷
-={ '<Esc>:read !echo -e "\u00f7 \xc3\xb7"' ends }=-

Imagine that!!!  It works!!!

Offhand I am thinking it might make the basis for converting utf8 to whatever 8
bit codepage you are using by just replacing 'c3 b8' combinations with a single
hex character that represents the divide sign in your codepage of choice.  So
for CP850 a conversion vector would look something like this;
's/\xc3\xb7/\xf6/g' which will replace ALL U+00F7 characters with a single f6
character.  For the Møøse that would be 's/\xc3\xb8/\x9b/g' and then everyone
will be happy including the Germans.  ;-)

 HG> If I translate that german line to swedish, norwegian or danish

Yes that can definetly screw things up.  I've done it from english to whatever
and then from whatever back to english and gotten strange results.  Let's try
it here;

-={ '<Esc>:read !trans -b -no-ansi -s english -t swedish "A Møøse once bit my
sister ..."' starts }=-
En möse hade en gång min syster ...
-={ '<Esc>:read !trans -b -no-ansi -s english -t swedish "A Møøse once bit my
sister ..."' ends }=-

We're already off to a bad start but let's leave the möse alone for now;

-={ '<Esc>:read !trans -b -no-ansi -s swedish -t english "En möse hade en
gång min syster ..."' starts }=-
A muzzle once had my sister ...
-={ '<Esc>:read !trans -b -no-ansi -s swedish -t english "En möse hade en
gång min syster ..."' ends }=-

That didn't work out so well but what about this?;

-={ '<Esc>:read !trans -b -no-ansi -s swedish -t english "En Møøse hade en
gång min syster ..."' starts }=-
A mousse once had my sister ...
-={ '<Esc>:read !trans -b -no-ansi -s swedish -t english "En Møøse hade en
gång min syster ..."' ends }=-

Not much better is it?  Oh well ... despite this I am sticking with the
Møøse.  If you have a better Swedish translation I would like to see it but
the Møøse stays, no matter what my sister or anyone else has to say about it.

Life is good,
Maurice

... A Møøse once bit my sister ...
--- GNU bash, version 5.0.2(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
 * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)