Text 5783, 98 rader
Skriven 2006-04-20 19:58:58 av Maurice Kinal (1:140/13.1)
   Kommentar till text 5779 av Stephen Haffly (1:396/45.27)
Ärende: pcmcia & kv2.6.17-rc2
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Hey Stephen!

Apr 20 06:17 06, Stephen Haffly wrote to Maurice Kinal:

 SH> Thank you for your patience with me on this issue.

Not a problem I just wish I understood the issue a bit better, which after
installing the card I think I am getting a better handle on.  I am not sure at
this writing why it didn't work but perhaps the real problem, or at least here,
is that I was using a 16-bit card (compactflash pcmcia adapter) instead of a
true cardbus (32-bit), but perhaps that isn't the real issue.

 SH> I still have not
 SH> gotten one reply in Fedora Forum about this issue.  This is another
 SH> reason I don't want to see Fido go away.

I doubt you will and even if you do I doubt they can help given that they've
burned their bridges behind themselves.  They jumped the gun as it were.  If
you are really serious about putting Linux on that laptop I would highly
recommend Slackware-10.2 as a good place to start.  You'll probably have to
update a few things for wireless cards, but your modem should work great with
things as is.  Also networking cards shouldn't be an issue.

 SH> I wouldn't know how to go about doing that.  Is there a step-by-step
 SH> howto in kernel rebuilding somewhere?

Yes, all over the place.  However I took the liberty of checking out what
Fedora 5 has in the way of tools, as well as their default so-called
user-friendly setup/config apps, and I highly doubt putting a new kernel will
get you where you want to go with it.  Again, in order to appreciate Linux and
get you started, I have to suggest Slackware-10.2 and take it one step at a
time from there.  I am sure you'll get there faster just biting the bullet now.

 MK>> 'ls /lib/modules/2.6.17-rc2/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/'
 MK>> pcmcia.ko  pcmcia_core.ko  rsrc_nonstatic.ko  yenta_socket.ko

 SH> I looked in /lib/modules/2.6.16-1.2080_FC5/kernel/drivers/pcmcia/ and
 SH> all that is in there is i82092.ko and pd6729.ko.  Obviously, when
 SH> compared with your results, there are some things lacking.

Yeppers.  That doesn't look promising at all.

 MK>> Module                  Size  Used by
 MK>> yenta_socket           28428  0
 MK>> rsrc_nonstatic         14592  1 yenta_socket
 MK>> pcmcia_core            43416  2 yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic

 SH> None of which show up when I issue the lsmod command. :(

No doubt.  Unless they built those into the kernel it looks to me like you're
stuck.

 MK>> 00:10.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1221

According to the pcmciautils docs and the howto the above chip isn't supported
and requires a special startup and /etc/pcmcia database.  I couldn't get it to
work other then to load the proper modules at bootup.  The pccardctl couldn't
detect the pcmcia adapter card I inserted and only reported that there was an
insertion and removal.  On the plus side after installing pcmcia-cs it had no
problem seeing the card and even beeped at me.  However it does give me that
warning about abandonment at bootup but I am content to ignore it.  :-)

 SH> I don't see the modem at all when using lspci -v. OTOH, when I use
 SH> pccardctl info, it reports the modem just fine.  Also, when I use
 SH> hwbrowser, it sees the modem.

Hm.  That sounds promising.  Perhaps your chipset is supported and it is a
different issue?  Could you please repost your 'lspci -v' again for the pcmcia
controller?  I think I have an idea but first want to see if my hunch is
correct.

 SH> Apparently, enough support exists to see it, but not to use it. :(

That might be whatever app you are using and not the pcmcia itself.  I have an
idea on how that might be easily resolved without having to reinstall or
rebuild your kernel.

 SH> The same thing I read, but haven't been able to make sense of it yet.

Yeah.  Me neither.  Working on it though.

 SH> He must be a packrat after my own heart.  I have some rather old
 SH> equipment here doing the same thing, although with having to move in 
 SH> a
 SH> few months, I am trying to overcome the packrat tendencies enough to 
 SH> get
 SH> rid of some things and cut back on the amount and weight of the stuff 
 SH> we
 SH> have to move.

Heh, heh.  I doubt you are worse then my neighbour.  He is king of the
packrats, no doubt about it here.

Life is good,
Maurice

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