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Skriven 2006-05-19 13:24:10 av Maurice Kinal (1:140/13.1)
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Hey Paul!

May 18 20:10 06, Paul Rogers wrote to Maurice Kinal:

 PR> Well, I've chosen to follow general community practices, with
 PR> the presumption that would cause fewer troubles with packages
 PR> than an idiosyncratic configuration.

udev comes to mind.  :-/

We'll see what happens with all that but I am pretty sure I'll stick with the
bsd-ish method.  After the problems I had with pcmcia lately I am thinking that
the old fashioned mknod when needed and just precreating the devices I am apt
to use is the best strategy there.  The only time hotplug proved useful was
with loading firmware, but that isn't really an issue with me anymore.  I am
learning what to avoid hardware-wise.

 PR> Not much.  But it seemed like one had to buy into the whole ball
 PR> of wax.  I found git, which is just one script, very usable.  It
 PR> did take a while learning the use of it.  It helps me track
 PR> files, but it doesn't get in my way.

I'll have to have a looksee at that.  You've roused my curiousity.  However
gfortran sort of beat you to that and I found myself looking at a linear
algebra reference to remind myself about all that after seeing a tad too many
GOTO's in some f77 source for math libs last week.  What's that all about?

 PR> Sure, when I installed the new LFS-6.1.1 with 2.6, I had to work-
 PR> over all my build scripts.

Right.  I've had to do that many times, especially with respect to using the
SMP guy to build for the rest.  That can be tricky especially when upgrading
any versions of whatever.  Still it is always good to have the backup script
from the previous build but it still requires changes every time.  It never
fails.

 PR> But what I'm doing here is putting a
 PR> pre-built system on a new drive, with a different disk mapping
 PR> probable.

Exactly.  I do that all the time.  I have a template fstab but still am being
my own sed as I still have to at least edit the commandline for the sed call so
there really isn't an advantage to it in this particular case.  Also I make the
drive bootable before removing it to put in the targetted machine and that also
requires editting to alter the call to 'lilo -C $TARGET/etc/lilo.conf.special'
so that the correct drive pertaining to the targetted machine will occur from
the host where things are totally different.

 PR> I've selected, compiled & configured things in a way
 PR> that will provide a usable, effective, but modest system for
 PR> modest hardware.

Good idea.  That saves a ton of work in most situations.

 PR> But I'm NOT rebuilding a different system!  That's what you're
 PR> talking about.  Don't try to tell me the root system is Minix,
 PR> or Reiserfs--not acceptable.  This is a CLONE!  Of 130 or so
 PR> packages, all but half a dozen are just extracting tarballs.

Same with this.  In fact I started playing with netpipes as a potential for a
network install instead of nfs given the above situation.  That is why I
thought a usb flash boot across the board (all the machines) would have greatly
facillitated something like that as opposed to cd's or :::shudder::: floppy
boots.  So far only one machine worked out that way though.  We'll see what
happens in the future.

 PR> This isn't a general purpose system.  It's not RedHat, SuSE,
 PR> Debian, Ubuntu, Mandriva.

Neither is this.  Mostly it is a hacked ttylinux, lately with a scripted
netpipes for any actual installs, usually a hacked Slackware but sometimes a
further hacked ttylinux for special occasions.  :-)

 PR> If that's what you want, POD ain't
 PR> that.  It's more like ttylinux in a way.  It's MODEST, though it
 PR> does provide X, KDE, Firefox/Thunderbird.  Install it and use
 PR> it.  Don't like my decisions?  Go make your own system.  ;-)

Amen!  I agree up to the X, KDE, Firefox/Thunderbird part.  I don't bother with
any of those other then sometimes X and not lately that.  I hardly use it so I
never bother until I think I might want it.  It has been awhile.

 MK>> I've been using 2.6 kernels with hotplug/udev boots on a 486-33.

 PR> I built a LFS-6.1.1 2.6.11-12 system with those, but I can't
 PR> compile KDE with its version of gcc--I think I mentioned that
 PR> problem here a couple months ago.  So I've set it aside.

Yeah.  That happened to me last year sometime when my neighbour was having
problems with it.  After the compile crapped out I told him then to give it ye
ol' heave-ho but he got stubborn and only last week mentioned he was giving up
on it.  I am not sure if he actually has though.

Life is good,
Maurice

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