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Text 7713, 154 rader
Skriven 2006-10-27 20:00:26 av Maurice Kinal (1:140/13.1)
   Kommentar till text 7709 av James Bradley (1:134/77.0)
Ärende: ttylinux
================
Hey James!

Oct 27 04:34 06, James Bradley wrote to Maurice Kinal:

 JB> Working with what I gots.

Understood.  My approach to that was, and still is now that I think about it,
to work towards getting rid of things that get in the way (eg CD's and floppies
before that), and avoid getting new things that cannot prove themselves worthy
of pusuing any further (eg DVD's).  So far that methodology has proved itself
over and over and ...

 JB> You inject all your files through a LAN, right? As my situation 
 JB> involves the update to a sneeker-net... Rubber net???

I used to and will probably start doing that again soon.  These days HD
installs/upgrades/etc has been the most pratical and best all things
considered.  However usb is looking good, especially bootable flash disks, but
I honestly wouldn't rely as it being the only way but instead as a back door to
replace CD/DVD and simular strategies.  Works great so far even if it isn't
bootable.

 JB> I just found the AM2 rig will try to boot from a USB 
 JB> flash-RAM(stick?) as it's set.

Right.  I already have two bootable systems, one 32-bit and the other 64-bit
although the 64-bit I restricted to /lib64 so that it potentially could run
32-bit apps if it has to, which so far it doesn't but you just never know for
sure.

 JB> is.) That'd be alright, but for the times I have a non-bootable stick 
 JB> in it.

That works too.

 JB> Us "Slackers" are mad at the grade curve. <L> Try to tone it down a 
 JB> little, will ya? <ROTF>

:-)  I'll try.

 JB> Thinking out loud: I could likely use the rack-mount Dell hot-swap 
 JB> SCSI to accept an image, but when all is said and done, I think that 
 JB> would best be left to the "More said than done, the better." 

Heh, heh.  That should work.

 JB> catagory. I still would use a CD to transfer that image to the HD, 
 JB> then move that drive to the subject Dell, so it's quite a detour, 
 JB> with nothing really gained.

Speed mostly as well as not having to concern oneself with getting ROMs to work
with the scheme.  Saves money as well which is nice.

 JB> As it worked out, I just threw Ubuntu at it directly, and it all 
 JB> looks like it stuck. I'll be poking it around to see if it's a keeper 
 JB> or not.

I've never looked at it but it is my understanding it is another typical
distribution, not that I am against that but far too often distributions are
giving too much of what I never wanted and not enough of what I do want.  After
trimming down I end up with something that looks very much like a heavily
minimalized Slackware so it seems to me that I may as well stick to the course
I chose to follow approx. a decade ago.  For me it was a great idea.  Other
then that, Linux From Scratch has some very good ideas and I always look at
what they're up to from time to time.

 JB> What I did discover, is the "aic7xxx=no_probe" did do wonders for 
 JB> other flavours I was throwing at the problem. (I forget which install 
 JB> CD contained the nugget of info.) My thinking was, to not probe it in 
 JB> the same place the second time, but I guess this is a no-pain, 
 JB> all-gain way.

I am not sure.  The last one I did I built into the kernel and it worked
fantastically without any extras.  I didn't try a scsi cd-rom though as that
just complicates things too much and I don't use cd's anymore so even if it
works it really doesn't.  :-)

 JB> Ah... "Google 'Slackware 11 .iso '. Blog-this, Blog-that... Review, 
 JB> review, 'Hackers Delight' (NEXT!!!) ..." Ya, I guess I use it as a 
 JB> starting point. They sure taught Alta Vista a thing or two!

I suppose.  Made more money that is for sure.

 MK>> C3 guy for the Shawnigan Lake connection to test out some 
 MK>> things.  I suppose I could safely delete it now.

 JB> That name rings a bell, and I'm not even *related* to Pavlov. 
 JB> Shawinigan... Was that the site of an uprising? (I think we've been 
 JB> down this road before. Like Wayne, I too suffer from a 'distracted' 
 JB> attention span, right.)

Could be.  It is on this side of the Malahat so it has a natural defence from
Victoria.  Quite a few of the residents commute (gov't workers I assume).  Very
nice place and the lake is off the highway so the community there is quiet, or
at least it was when I was visiting there.  An artsy community or at least that
was my impression.

 JB> See, I could offer my assistance to sweep the floor, and take out the 
 JB> trash.

Not after I finished with you.  :-)

 MK>> :-)  Tomorrow.

 JB> As long as it happens.

He is still spinning his wheels.  We have what we need but Paul (neighbour) is
still thinking he can crack things that I decided years ago aren't worth the
effort.  I figure by Monday he will be frustrated enough to follow my lead but
we'll see.  I am in no rush.

 JB> That's all that matters. My buddy with the 
 JB> DSL, just found out he should have listened to me three days ago, and 
 JB> now *he* is getting his POS application back on the company machine. 

Yeah I've seen some goofy ideas around here simular to that.  I just shake my
head and walk away.  I imagine it'll get worse next year.  Care to bet on it?

 MK>> Right.  I've seen a few of those out there.  Interesting.  At least 
 MK>> it isn't  nforce/nvidia so it might actually be worth something.  

 JB> You should have seen my jaw drop when I found the VIA chip had 
 JB> nothing to do with it.

As far as I am aware they don't.  All I know for sure that nforce/nvidia got
the heave-ho here.  I don't need them and they got in the way of progress. 
Since then things have been falling into place nicely ... with tweaking of
course but that should go without saying.

 JB> Ta hell if I know. I'm just the drummer. <G+D> It houses a full hight 
 JB> expansion card, vertically, so it must be about 4-tall.

Right.  Sounds 4U-ish to me.  Those are my favourites.

 MK>> Not sure about circles but he was definetly still spinning 
 MK>> his wheels last time I checked.  ;-)

 JB> Who cares if he's lost, at least he's making good time. <L>

Hurry up and wait?  ;-)

 MK>> Me too.  However the ol' grey brain just ain't what she 
 MK>> used to be but whatcha gonna do eh?

 JB> Try to upgrade? <snicker> Oh... I know. Work with what we gots. [-;

Yep.  So far so good but there have been more 'moments' then there used to be
that is for sure.

Life is good,
Maurice

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