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Skriven 2006-11-30 11:56:24 av WAYNE CHIRNSIDE (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av MAURICE KINAL
Ärende: of ethics and hard drives
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-> Sure.  Trouble is that I got so used to using these types of things on the
-> commandline that I tend to think everyone must already know them.  My
neighbour
-> often stops me midstream and asks about something I typed in 10 commands
prior.
->  Thank goodness for .bash_history eh?

I'm a serious basket case now having discovered Mplayer and SOX works in
the Debian live CD boot.  

Yeah, I had Slackware loaded to the hard drive but I likes iptables for
the firewall so I booted to the CD and invoked the firewall.

Plus just wanted to play on the fly for educational reasons.

I need to figure out export because I think that's the only thing
holding up being able to play media formats other than .avi with mplayer
from a live CD boot.
Once I figure that out I can invoke that on the fly so mplayer sees the
codecs right?

Guessing here a bit but am I right and what might the syntax be?

I can look but occupied with other fun stuff just now.

->  WC> Hey you know when I was setting up Slackware over that cup of 
->  WC> coffee this morning it occurred to me there's a "base system"
->  WC> option in that package installation menu.

-> I never knew that.  Last time I checked there was a zipSlack install option
-> which is roughly the same.  I guess I got used to installing things from the
-> commandline off a harddrive that I haven't kept in touch with regular CD
-> installs.  I think the last time I did a standard install was 8.something. 
I
-> recall Debian having a base install on their CDs but I forget the last
version
-> I checked them out as that was many years ago.     

->  WC> I wonder if it might just be a good idea to zero out the
->  WC> hard drive with dd if=dev/zero of=/dev/hda and start all
->  WC> over with a bare bones software installation.

-> Maybe.  Perrsonally if I was sure the drive is okay then I'd say just boot
up a
-> CD install and then fdisk and format from there instead.  No need to dd the
-> drive unless you really want to.
                                                      
Won't boot to the hard drive at all but all three partitons are there,
well, all 8 partitons I should say.
There's an sda1 showed up which is my USB drive, then too the 4
partitions on hde on the secondary I/O card I put in last night.

This is getting weird :-)

->  WC> Have you any opinions you would care to
->  WC> share with me about this idea? 

-> I am too hardcore to suggest anything.  I gave up on CD installs quite some
-> time ago and the way I currently do it can be confusing.  Ask my neighbour
and
-> he'll confirm that.        

Well maybe tomorrow I'll put ttylinux  on one of hte many hard drive
partitons that seem to be sprouting up all over.
I wouldn't be at al adverse to that.

I think i'll copy over hda1 and hda3 to hde1 and hde2 first as backup.
Save me the trouble of recompiling mplayer and lame once I find out if
the MBR is recoverable.

Time to toss the Windows 98 CD as it's no longer usefull
in the limited capacity of fdisk /mbr as it jumped past hda and was
looking at hde

That may indicate bad for the drive but I shall reserve judgement until
using real software on it.

-> I think you should have at least two partitions for installing to; one for
-> something you already feel comfortable with and the second for playing
around
-> on and learning.  That way if you trash the second learning partition you'll
-> always have the stable one to return to.  Even a second drive would be a
great
-> thing to have to play on.  At the moment that is what I am doing.  

How about a third hard drive and 8 partitions?     
That's what I've got now.
I did say I was having a good day after having trashed the MBR last
night didn't I?
                         

Oh yeah, forgot to mention I recovered a dead hard drive that's been
sitting on the shelf these last two years.  

I'm weird.
If I spend 350  dollars on a drive or someone gifts me one even if
apearantly dead I'm sentimentally attached.

I've two more _dead_ drives here and one more seconday IDE controller
channel, I wonder if either of them will resurrect???

-> Currently my newest 'install' is on /dev/hdb2 and I am getting to like it so


How very mundane of you to have your physical drives in the standard
logical order.

I tread my own path and mine are all over the place.
I can add an /hdf later today if feeling bold.
I'd zero it first as it's the malware infected small drive.

-> I'll probably install it to /dev/hda1 and call it my default stable system. 
I
-> still have to test out mplayer on it but the matroxfb looks good and mga_vid
-> seems to be usable so my guess is that mplayer will work at least as good as
my
-> last build did.  Still haven't resolved the iptables thingy but this isn't
my
-> firewall box so it really isn't urgent that it work.  Also haven't decided
if I
-> want xorg on it yet.  Anyhow the point is that I always have the last stable
-> system on /dev/hda1 (four partitions for /, /mnt/test-part, /home and
-> /mnt/archives) and do the same on /dev/hdb except it is far more
experimental. 
-> That gives me three playing partitions on two drives as well as two stable
-> home's and two archive partitions.  Always have a backup.  :-)

Well once again I agree with you however I need to get something to
boot out of the MBR or  1st primary hda1 first.

Operating online telnet as for some reason mmailrc wouldn't save after
setting the upload and downnload directories to /mnt/hda3/home/usr/mmail

Going surfing for now but will be back later today after booting back to
Slackware on hda1

I may just take a nap.
I slept pretty good last night as the last thing I did was trash the MBR
knowing that upon light of day Linux would not let me down.

Learning lots and hope to retain some of that.
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