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Text 1234, 131 rader
Skriven 2004-11-04 08:46:16 av Ellen K. (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 1228 av Geo (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Article on WIPO & the public good
=============================================
From: Ellen K. <72322.enno.esspeeayem.1016@compuserve.com>

Well, I kinda doubt anyone would make a recording "singing along" to a Mozart
symphony!!!

But I also honestly don't think somebody should be able to come along and do
something with the recording that changes the performers' interpretation of the
music.  If somebody wants to interpret the music differently, let them make
their own recording.

On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 22:03:24 -0600, "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message
<41899ba9$1@w3.nls.net>:

>Sure, someone who is very good at playing an instrument should not be
>required to write music in order to earn a living. I have no problem with
>being able to copyright a performance, my issue is that the copyright should
>be short term so that just like the musician who plays some elses song to
>earn his living, someone else can take the recording of the performance and
>use it in the same way to earn a living by adding to it using their talents,
>perhaps singing along or whatever..
>
>Geo.
>
>"Ellen K" <Ellen.K@harborwebs.com> wrote in message
>news:8088c6.61168e@harborwebs.com...
>> Yes, I know that, I wanted to know if you approve or not.
>>
>> > From: "Geo" <georger@nls.net>
>> > Yes, they copyright the performance not the songs.
>> > Geo.
>> > "Ellen K." <72322.enno.esspeeayem.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in message
>> > news:lqoao0hsf1t0sonlabo4e1vinq9igu71t3@4ax.com...
>> >> OK, just for discussion:
>> >>
>> >> Mozart is dead a long time already, presumably his works themselves
>> >> aren't copyrightable.  If a record company makes a new recording of a
>> >> Mozart symphony, do the conductor and musicians deserve royalties?
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 09:55:21 -0600, "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in
>> >> message <4184fb8d@w3.nls.net>:
>> >>
>> >> >copy protection should be illegal, the deal is we protect the material
>> > for
>> >> >the term of the copyright and after that it becomes public domain,
>copy
>> >> >protection is a technology that makes sure that on the day the
>copyright
>> >> >expires the author breaks his part of that deal.
>> >> >
>> >> >Geo.
>> >> >
>> >> >"Ellen K." <72322.enno.esspeeayem.1016@compuserve.com> wrote in
>message
>> >> >news:3r39o0dqfcuhfrsjbtdsgikj07ncm6o521@4ax.com...
>> >> >> Well, but in the case of music, it doesn't even matter if the
>> >> >> composition itself is copyrighted, they copy-protect the media to
>> >> >> protect the royalties for the musicians.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:57:08 -0500, "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in
>> >> >> message <418194a4$1@w3.nls.net>:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >"Gary Wiltshire" <gaw@sover.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:opsgf4bqyqeipai0@news.barkto.com...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > You can if the law says you can.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Adam's view of the omnipotent state.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >In 1909 you couldn't copyright music, in 1910 you could but it
>expired
>> > in
>> >> >56
>> >> >> >years, except that was extended before the 56 years was up and then
>> >> >extended
>> >> >> >again before that term was up and then extended again before that
>term
>> >> >was
>> >> >> >up and as it stands now music copyrighted in 1910 is still
>protected
>> > and
>> >> >now
>> >> >> >the music companies are trying to force technology to protect the
>> > still
>> >> >> >copyrighted music so that when the copyright does expire you STILL
>> > can't
>> >> >use
>> >> >> >the music without paying the music companies.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >And the part that's really sad, the 1909 congress who made all this
>> >> >possible
>> >> >> >did so with this warning:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"The main object to be desired in expanding copyright protection
>> > accorded
>> >> >to
>> >> >> >music has been to give the composer an adequate return for the
>value
>> > of
>> >> >his
>> >> >> >composition, and it has been a serious and difficult task to
>combine
>> > the
>> >> >> >protection of the composer with the protection of the public, and
>to
>> > so
>> >> >> >frame an act that it would accomplish the double purpose of
>securing
>> > to
>> >> >the
>> >> >> >composer an adequate return for all use made of his composition and
>at
>> >> >the
>> >> >> >same time prevent the formation of oppressive monopolies, which
>might
>> > be
>> >> >> >founded upon the very rights granted to the composer for the
>purpose
>> > of
>> >> >> >protecting his interests." H.R. Rep. No. 2222 60th Cong., 2nd
>Sess.7
>> >> >(1909).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Geo. (congress sucks at making laws)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>

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