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Ärende: Re: Ripping verboten?
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From: "Rich" <@>
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No. This is about the following statements from adam
I wonder if it changes the file in any way. If
so.....ummm....copyright....? If I own the file then like a movie or
piece of music "rearranging without permission" etc is verboten.
The rearranging to which he is referring is what you call format = shifting.
Rich
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:45126772$2@w3.nls.net...
what about format shifting to your ipod then sharing the files? That's =
what this is about yes?
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4510efb3@w3.nls.net...
I have always thought it OK rip your own CDs for your own use. I =
have also thought it OK to further format shift into other formats = including
transfering to your ipod or other music player for your own = use. I'm pretty
sure you have asserted this position as well in the = past. Only now do you
act like an idiot with some silly position that = it is illegal for apple to
support format shifting in itunes if they try = to make money on ipods and
itunes. Why haven't you been more vocal = about your silly position for the
past few years?
Rich
"Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes> wrote in message =
news:4510e6c8@w3.nls.net...
Rich wrote:
> What an idiot. You think I believe ripping is OK only =
because my=20
> employer thinks it is OK? What a hoot!=20
Nope I think your views change as those of your employer change.
> And your sudden assertion that=20
> ripping is not OK is because of what?
> =20
I never said it was right to rip in order to make money. Home=20
backup/format shifting by the person who has purchased the media =
etc is=20
fine but to make money makes you into a publisher. You are the one =
who=20
holds it's fine for people to rip so long as it makes your =
employer money.
Adam
> Rich
> =20
>=20
> "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes
> <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>> wrote in message
> news:45100d5a@w3.nls.net...
> Rich wrote:
> > Apparently you. My views haven't changed. You appear =
to take
> silly
> > positions at the drop of a hat.
> >=20
> > Rich
> >=20
> >
> > "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes
> <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>
> > <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>> wrote in =
message
> > news:450fecc9$1@w3.nls.net...
> > Rich wrote:
> > > My views haven't changed. I think it is OK to =
rip your own
> > CDs for
> > > your own use. Always have. You are changing your =
tune and
> > looking like
> > > a fool with your new very silly assertions.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > So Rich who is the fool/has his views dictated to him =
by his
> betters?
> >
> > Adam
> Nope, You simply take whatever position your employer takes, =
which
> is in
> itself dictated by the search from profits.
>=20
> Adam
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> No. This is about =
the following=20
statements from adam</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>I wonder if it changes the file in any way.=20
If<BR>so.....ummm....copyright....? If I own the file then like a =
movie=20
or<BR>piece of music "rearranging without permission" etc is=20
verboten.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The rearranging to which he is =
referring is what=20
you call format shifting.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Geo" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>> wrote=20
in message <A=20
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href=3D"news:45126772$2@w3.nls.net">news:45126772$2@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>what about format shifting to your =
ipod then=20
sharing the files? That's what this is about yes?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
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href=3D"news:4510efb3@w3.nls.net">news:4510efb3@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I have always thought =
it OK rip=20
your own CDs for your own use. I have also thought it OK to =
further=20
format shift into other formats including transfering to your ipod =
or other=20
music player for your own use. I'm pretty sure you have =
asserted this=20
position as well in the past. Only now do you act like an =
idiot with=20
some silly position that it is illegal for apple to support format =
shifting=20
in itunes if they try to make money on ipods and itunes. Why =
haven't=20
you been more vocal about your silly position for the past few=20
years?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Adam" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes</=
A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4510e6c8@w3.nls.net">news:4510e6c8@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>Ri=
ch=20
wrote:<BR>> What an idiot. You think I =
believe=20
ripping is OK only because my <BR>> employer thinks it is =
OK? =20
What a hoot! <BR><BR>Nope I think your views change as those of =
your=20
employer change.<BR><BR>> And your sudden assertion that =
<BR>>=20
ripping is not OK is because of what?<BR>> <BR><BR>I =
never said=20
it was right to rip in order to make money. Home <BR>backup/format =
shifting by the person who has purchased the media etc is <BR>fine =
but to=20
make money makes you into a publisher. You are the one who =
<BR>holds it's=20
fine for people to rip so long as it makes your employer=20
money.<BR><BR>Adam<BR><BR>> Rich<BR>> <BR>>=20
<BR>> "Adam" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes</=
A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts=
@moes</A>>>=20
wrote in message<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:45100d5a@w3.nls.net">news:45100d5a@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>>=
=20
Rich wrote:<BR>> =
> =20
Apparently you. My views haven't changed. You appear =
to=20
take<BR>> =20
silly<BR>> > positions at the =
drop of=20
a hat.<BR>> >=20
<BR>> >=20
Rich<BR>> >=20
<BR>> =20
><BR>> =
> =20
"Adam" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes</=
A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts=
@moes</A>><BR>> =20
> <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts=
@moes</A>>>=20
wrote in message<BR>> =20
> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:450fecc9$1@w3.nls.net">news:450fecc9$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
> =20
> Rich=20
wrote:<BR>> =20
> > My views =
haven't=20
changed. I think it is OK to rip your=20
own<BR>> =
> CDs=20
for<BR>> =20
> > your own use. Always =
have. You are changing your tune=20
and<BR>> =
> =20
looking like<BR>> =20
> > a fool with your new very =
silly=20
assertions.<BR>> =20
> =20
><BR>> =20
><BR>> =20
><BR>> =20
><BR>> =
> So=20
Rich who is the fool/has his views dictated to him by=20
his<BR>> =20
betters?<BR>> =20
><BR>> =
> =20
Adam<BR>> Nope, You simply take =
whatever=20
position your employer takes, =
which<BR>> is=20
in<BR>> itself dictated by the search =
from=20
profits.<BR>> <BR>> =20
Adam</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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