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Skriven 2006-09-21 14:33:12 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Ripping verboten?
=============================
From: "Rich" <@>

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   What you describe includes ripping, other forms of format shifting, =
adding to a ZIP file, downloading from a secure web server or other = network
protocols, or any of a bunch of other things.  Do you think adam = is so stupid
as to believe these to be verboten?

Rich

  "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadow@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4513038f@w3.nls.net...
  Rearranging the bits in the file, scrambled with an encryption/drm=20
  wrapper/watermark.

  --=20

  Glenn M.
  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4512fa12$1@w3.nls.net...
     What possible meaning of the word "rearranging" could mean this?

  Rich

    "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadow@comcast.net> wrote in message=20
  news:4512ed82$1@w3.nls.net...
    I took his "rearranging" to mean changing the file with time limited =
DRM
    code, not time shifting.

    --=20

    Glenn M.
    "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4512e62c$1@w3.nls.net...
       No.  This is about the following statements from adam

      I wonder if it changes the file in any way. If
      so.....ummm....copyright....? If I own the file then like a movie =
or
      piece of music "rearranging without permission" etc is verboten.

    The rearranging to which he is referring is what you call format =
shifting.

    Rich

      "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:45126772$2@w3.nls.net...
      what about format shifting to your ipod then sharing the files? =
That's
    what this is about yes?

      Geo.
        "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4510efb3@w3.nls.net...
           I have always thought it OK rip your own CDs for your own =
use.  I
    have also thought it OK to further format shift into other formats=20
  including
    transfering to your ipod or other music player for your own use.  =
I'm=20
  pretty
    sure you have asserted this position as well in the past.  Only now =
do you
    act like an idiot with some silly position that it is illegal for =
apple to
    support format shifting in itunes if they try to make money on ipods =
and
    itunes.  Why haven't you been more vocal about your silly position =
for the
    past few years?

        Rich

          "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes> wrote in message
    news:4510e6c8@w3.nls.net...
          Rich wrote:
          >    What an idiot.  You think I believe ripping is OK only =
because=20
  my
          > employer thinks it is OK?  What a hoot!

          Nope I think your views change as those of your employer =
change.

          > And your sudden assertion that
          > ripping is not OK is because of what?
          >

          I never said it was right to rip in order to make money. Home
          backup/format shifting by the person who has purchased the =
media etc
    is
          fine but to make money makes you into a publisher. You are the =
one=20
  who
          holds it's fine for people to rip so long as it makes your =
employer
    money.

          Adam

          > Rich
          >
          >
          >     "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes
          >     <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>> wrote in message
          >     news:45100d5a@w3.nls.net...
          >     Rich wrote:
          >      >    Apparently you.  My views haven't changed.  You =
appear=20
  to
    take
          >     silly
          >      > positions at the drop of a hat.
          >      >
          >      > Rich
          >      >
          >      >
          >      >     "Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes
          >     <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>
          >      >     <mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>> wrote in =
message
          >      >     news:450fecc9$1@w3.nls.net...
          >      >     Rich wrote:
          >      >      >    My views haven't changed.  I think it is OK =
to=20
  rip
    your own
          >      >     CDs for
          >      >      > your own use.  Always have.  You are changing =
your
    tune and
          >      >     looking like
          >      >      > a fool with your new very silly assertions.
          >      >      >
          >      >
          >      >
          >      >
          >      >     So Rich who is the fool/has his views dictated to =
him=20
  by
    his
          >     betters?
          >      >
          >      >     Adam
          >     Nope, You simply take whatever position your employer =
takes,
    which
          >     is in
          >     itself dictated by the search from profits.
          >
          >     Adam



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; What you describe includes =
ripping,=20
other forms of format shifting, adding to&nbsp;a ZIP file, downloading = from
a=20
secure web server or other network protocols, or any of a bunch of other =

things.&nbsp; Do you think adam is so stupid as to believe these to be=20
verboten?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV>"Glenn Meadows" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:gmeadow@comcast.net">gmeadow@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
  <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:4513038f@w3.nls.net">news:4513038f@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>Re=
arranging=20
  the bits in the file, scrambled with an encryption/drm=20
  <BR>wrapper/watermark.<BR><BR>-- <BR><BR>Glenn M.<BR>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; =
wrote in=20
  message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:4512fa12$1@w3.nls.net">news:4512fa12$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  What possible meaning of the word "rearranging" could mean=20
  this?<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR>&nbsp; "Glenn Meadows" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:gmeadow@comcast.net">gmeadow@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
  <BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"news:4512ed82$1@w3.nls.net">news:4512ed82$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&nbsp;=20
  I took his "rearranging" to mean changing the file with time limited=20
  DRM<BR>&nbsp; code, not time shifting.<BR><BR>&nbsp; -- <BR><BR>&nbsp; =
Glenn=20
  M.<BR>&nbsp; "Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:4512e62c$1@w3.nls.net">news:4512e62c$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  No.&nbsp; This is about the following statements from=20
  adam<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I wonder if it changes the file in any =
way.=20
  If<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; so.....ummm....copyright....? If I own the =
file then=20
  like a movie or<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; piece of music "rearranging =
without=20
  permission" etc is verboten.<BR><BR>&nbsp; The rearranging to which he =
is=20
  referring is what you call format shifting.<BR><BR>&nbsp;=20
  Rich<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Geo" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; wrote in =
message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:45126772$2@w3.nls.net">news:45126772$2@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  what about format shifting to your ipod then sharing the files?=20
  That's<BR>&nbsp; what this is about yes?<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Geo.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in =
message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:4510efb3@w3.nls.net">news:4510efb3@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  I have always thought it OK rip your own CDs for your own use.&nbsp;=20
  I<BR>&nbsp; have also thought it OK to further format shift into other =
formats=20
  <BR>including<BR>&nbsp; transfering to your ipod or other music player =
for=20
  your own use.&nbsp; I'm <BR>pretty<BR>&nbsp; sure you have asserted =
this=20
  position as well in the past.&nbsp; Only now do you<BR>&nbsp; act like =
an=20
  idiot with some silly position that it is illegal for apple =
to<BR>&nbsp;=20
  support format shifting in itunes if they try to make money on ipods=20
  and<BR>&nbsp; itunes.&nbsp; Why haven't you been more vocal about your =
silly=20
  position for the<BR>&nbsp; past few=20
  years?<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Rich<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Adam" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes</=
A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message<BR>&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:4510e6c8@w3.nls.net">news:4510e6c8@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Rich wrote:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What an idiot.&nbsp; You think I believe =
ripping is OK=20
  only because <BR>my<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; =

  employer thinks it is OK?&nbsp; What a=20
  hoot!<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Nope I think =
your=20
  views change as those of your employer=20
  change.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; And =
your sudden=20
  assertion that<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; =
ripping is=20
  not OK is because of =
what?<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I never said it =
was=20
  right to rip in order to make money.=20
  Home<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; backup/format =
shifting by=20
  the person who has purchased the media etc<BR>&nbsp;=20
  is<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; fine but to make =
money makes=20
  you into a publisher. You are the one=20
  <BR>who<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; holds it's fine =
for=20
  people to rip so long as it makes your employer<BR>&nbsp;=20
  money.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Adam<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
  Rich<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Adam" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes</=
A><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts=
@moes</A>&gt;&gt;=20
  wrote in message<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:45100d5a@w3.nls.net">news:45100d5a@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Rich=20
  wrote:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Apparently=20
  you.&nbsp; My views haven't changed.&nbsp; You appear <BR>to<BR>&nbsp; =

  take<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  silly<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; positions at the drop of a=20
  hat.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
  Rich<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Adam" =
&lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes</=
A><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts=
@moes</A>&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<A =

  =
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts=
@moes</A>&gt;&gt;=20
  wrote in message<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:450fecc9$1@w3.nls.net">news:450fecc9$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Rich=20
  wrote:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; My views haven't changed.&nbsp; I think it is =
OK to=20
  <BR>rip<BR>&nbsp; your =
own<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CDs=20
  for<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;=20
  your own use.&nbsp; Always have.&nbsp; You are changing your<BR>&nbsp; =
tune=20
  and<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
looking=20
  like<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt; a=20
  fool with your new very silly=20
  assertions.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So =
Rich who is=20
  the fool/has his views dictated to him <BR>by<BR>&nbsp;=20
  his<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  betters?<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Adam<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Nope, You simply take whatever position =
your=20
  employer takes,<BR>&nbsp; =
which<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; is=20
  in<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  itself dictated by the search from=20
  profits.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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