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Skriven 2007-01-13 10:06:20 av Rich (1:379/45)
  Kommentar till text 15360 av Geo. (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: george's preferences
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   I have no idea what you are talking about.  Only one thing opens =
automatically on first logon to a clean install of Vista and that is the =
Welcome Center to which I was referring.  To what exactly are you = referring
or are you just making stuff up?

   You have what you want.  Your whining, and something you have =
repeated over the years, is that you want the product defaults to be = your
personal preferences claiming that what you prefer for yourself is = what
everyone should prefer.  It's as bogus a suggestion now as it has = always
been.

Rich


  "Geo." <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:45a91a3d$1@w3.nls.net...
  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:45a87177$1@w3.nls.net...

  >>   You are confusing setup and first logon.

  You know, for a first time user I can see where all the text and =
windows=20
  that vista pops up could be helpful. I'm not so far gone that I don't=20
  remember my very first time I used a computer, it was daunting and =
certainly=20
  all the explanations and offerings would help.

  But for someone who has been using windows since.. well since before =
program=20
  manager and file manager had icons (my first windows was text based =
GUI)=20
  it's like being in a car with a kid who keeps saying "are we there =
yet" with=20
  every popup. A simple folder on the desktop with shortcuts to all the =
new=20
  stuff would have been more than sufficient to explore the system.

  Windows really does need an install option that offers the choice=20
  "newbie/experienced/expert" so when it installs it can get turn off =
the=20
  newbie crap and wizards, enable classic everything, etc. for the rest =
of us.=20
  I mean really.. years ago when we moved from NT/W89/me to W2K there =
were how=20
  many windows users in the world? Today these people are windows users =
with=20
  7 YEARS experience, they don't need to be treated this way.

  When is Microsoft going to recognize it's ignored the experienced =
users and=20
  provide a version for us? I want raw sockets back, I want file =
extensions=20
  viewable by default, I want classic control panel, I want admin tools=20
  enabled by default, I want to hit network properties and see "shared =
files"=20
  instead of "show me all the files and folders I am sharing" I don't =
want=20
  "diagnose and repair" I want "diagnose" and "repair" so that I don't =
have to=20
  worry about the system modifying my settings simply because I want to=20
  troubleshoot something.

  The popup that warns me that nero smart start is incompatible with =
vista=20
  needs to give me more information, what is incompatible since =
disabling that=20
  stupid service that warns me seems to let nero smart start run just =
fine. If=20
  you are going to include DRM, then dammit have it tell me that it's =
the DRM=20
  that is stopping me from viewing HD video instead of making it look =
like a=20
  bug. I don't need to waste time trying to fix what MS breaks on =
purpose.=20
  Vista Ultimate has no network sniffer, why not include such a basic=20
  diagnostic tool in the ultimate version?

  Geo.=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I have no idea what you =
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install of Vista and that is the Welcome Center to which I was =
referring.&nbsp;=20
To what exactly are you referring or are you just making stuff =
up?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; You have what you =
want.&nbsp; Your=20
whining, and something you have repeated over the years, is that you = want
the=20
product defaults to be your personal preferences claiming that what you =
prefer=20
for yourself is what everyone should prefer.&nbsp; It's as bogus a =
suggestion=20
now as it has always been.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Geo." &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; wrote=20
  in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:45a91a3d$1@w3.nls.net">news:45a91a3d$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>"Rich"=20
  &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:45a87177$1@w3.nls.net">news:45a87177$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  You are confusing setup and first logon.<BR><BR>You know, for a first =
time=20
  user I can see where all the text and windows <BR>that vista pops up =
could be=20
  helpful. I'm not so far gone that I don't <BR>remember my very first =
time I=20
  used a computer, it was daunting and certainly <BR>all the =
explanations and=20
  offerings would help.<BR><BR>But for someone who has been using =
windows=20
  since.. well since before program <BR>manager and file manager had =
icons (my=20
  first windows was text based GUI) <BR>it's like being in a car with a =
kid who=20
  keeps saying "are we there yet" with <BR>every popup. A simple folder =
on the=20
  desktop with shortcuts to all the new <BR>stuff would have been more =
than=20
  sufficient to explore the system.<BR><BR>Windows really does need an =
install=20
  option that offers the choice <BR>"newbie/experienced/expert" so when =
it=20
  installs it can get turn off the <BR>newbie crap and wizards, enable =
classic=20
  everything, etc. for the rest of us. <BR>I mean really.. years ago =
when we=20
  moved from NT/W89/me to W2K there were how <BR>many windows users in =
the=20
  world? Today these people are windows users with <BR>7 YEARS =
experience, they=20
  don't need to be treated this way.<BR><BR>When is Microsoft going to =
recognize=20
  it's ignored the experienced users and <BR>provide a version for us? I =
want=20
  raw sockets back, I want file extensions <BR>viewable by default, I =
want=20
  classic control panel, I want admin tools <BR>enabled by default, I =
want to=20
  hit network properties and see "shared files" <BR>instead of "show me =
all the=20
  files and folders I am sharing" I don't want <BR>"diagnose and repair" =
I want=20
  "diagnose" and "repair" so that I don't have to <BR>worry about the =
system=20
  modifying my settings simply because I want to <BR>troubleshoot=20
  something.<BR><BR>The popup that warns me that nero smart start is=20
  incompatible with vista <BR>needs to give me more information, what is =

  incompatible since disabling that <BR>stupid service that warns me =
seems to=20
  let nero smart start run just fine. If <BR>you are going to include =
DRM, then=20
  dammit have it tell me that it's the DRM <BR>that is stopping me from =
viewing=20
  HD video instead of making it look like a <BR>bug. I don't need to =
waste time=20
  trying to fix what MS breaks on purpose. <BR>Vista Ultimate has no =
network=20
  sniffer, why not include such a basic <BR>diagnostic tool in the =
ultimate=20
  version?<BR><BR>Geo. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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