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Text 15512, 195 rader
Skriven 2007-01-21 07:23:04 av Rich (1:379/45)
  Kommentar till text 15502 av Rich Gauszka (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Content protection
==============================
From: "Rich" <@>

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   You are confused.  Microsoft may have participated in the standards =
committees on the specifications.  As an implementor and consequently an =
interested party, membership seems like a good idea.  The specifications =
don't mandate that content must be protected.  It's the content = providers
that make this mandate.

Rich

  "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:45b2fed0@w3.nls.net...
  Microsoft was part of the committee that established the scheme for =
content protection and thus 'mandated' taking my cpu cycles .

  For the record I don't advocate theft/misuse of artistic property. I =
just want fair use of that property after I purchase it ( backup, play = it on
devices of my choosing ).=20


    "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:45b2f6e3$1@w3.nls.net...
       The extra CPU is to support the protections mandated by the =
content.  The additional functionality is the ability to render that = content
at all.  If you don't want to play protected content such as = HD-DVD or bluray
then you should care that increased CPU is required to = do so.  If you do want
to play such content then you should be pleased = that it is possible.

    Rich

      "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:45b2ec71$1@w3.nls.net...
      The Vista team is hallucinating equating additional CPU cycles =
used for drm=20
      with additional functionality for consumers.

      from the link
      ------------------------------------------------------------
      Will Windows Vista content protection features increase CPU =
resource=20
      consumption?

      Yes.  However, the use of additional CPU cycles is inevitable, as =
the PC=20
      provides consumers with additional functionality.
      -------------------------------------------------------------

      "John Beamish" <JLBeamish@rogers.com> wrote in message=20
      =
news:op.tmhkksu1m6tn4t@dellblack.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com...
      > In this vein ... there was the story that Vista imposed DRM in =
such a=20
      > manner that if (for example) you were listening to a CD that was =
subject=20
      > to DRM and you were a technician viewing (according to this =
example) a=20
      > digital x-ray that the x-ray would be degraded to the same =
extent that DRM=20
      > required the CD to be degraded.
      >
      > The Windows Vista team replied here:
      > =
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/20/windows=
-vista-content-protection-twenty-questions-and-answers.aspx

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; You are confused.&nbsp; =
Microsoft may=20
have participated in the standards committees on the = specifications.&nbsp; As
an=20
implementor and consequently an interested party, membership seems like = a
good=20
idea.&nbsp; The specifications don't mandate that content must be=20
protected.&nbsp; It's the content providers that make this =
mandate.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV>"Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com">gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com</=
A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:45b2fed0@w3.nls.net">news:45b2fed0@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Microsoft was part of the committee =
that=20
  established the scheme for content protection and thus 'mandated' =
taking my=20
  cpu cycles&nbsp;.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For the record I don't advocate =
theft/misuse of=20
  artistic property. I just want fair use of that property after I =
purchase it (=20
  backup, play it on devices of my choosing ). </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:45b2f6e3$1@w3.nls.net">news:45b2f6e3$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; The extra CPU is to =
support the=20
    protections mandated by the content.&nbsp; The additional =
functionality is=20
    the ability to render that content at all.&nbsp; If you don't want =
to play=20
    protected content such as HD-DVD or bluray then you should care that =

    increased CPU is required to do so.&nbsp; If you do want to play =
such=20
    content then you should be pleased that it is possible.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV>"Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com">gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com</=
A>&gt;=20
      wrote in message <A=20
      =
href=3D"news:45b2ec71$1@w3.nls.net">news:45b2ec71$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>The=20
      Vista team is hallucinating equating additional CPU cycles used =
for drm=20
      <BR>with additional functionality for consumers.<BR><BR>from the=20
      =
link<BR>------------------------------------------------------------<BR>W=
ill=20
      Windows Vista content protection features increase CPU resource=20
      <BR>consumption?<BR><BR>Yes.&nbsp; However, the use of additional =
CPU=20
      cycles is inevitable, as the PC <BR>provides consumers with =
additional=20
      =
functionality.<BR>-------------------------------------------------------=
------<BR><BR>"John=20
      Beamish" &lt;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:JLBeamish@rogers.com">JLBeamish@rogers.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
      message <BR><A=20
      =
href=3D"news:op.tmhkksu1m6tn4t@dellblack.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com=
">news:op.tmhkksu1m6tn4t@dellblack.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com</A>..=
.<BR>&gt;=20
      In this vein ... there was the story that Vista imposed DRM in =
such a=20
      <BR>&gt; manner that if (for example) you were listening to a CD =
that was=20
      subject <BR>&gt; to DRM and you were a technician viewing =
(according to=20
      this example) a <BR>&gt; digital x-ray that the x-ray would be =
degraded to=20
      the same extent that DRM <BR>&gt; required the CD to be=20
      degraded.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; The Windows Vista team replied =
here:<BR>&gt; <A=20
      =
href=3D"http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/20=
/windows-vista-content-protection-twenty-questions-and-answers.aspx">http=
://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/20/windows-vis=
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