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Skriven 2007-01-23 21:07:52 av Rich (1:379/45)
  Kommentar till text 15603 av Rich Gauszka (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: eweek's john pallatto is claiming Monthly Microsoft Patch Hides Tri
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   It's an eweek story that one of the Ziff Davis zdnet blogger's =
ridiculed and according to him so did many of the responses to the = original
story.  See http://blogs.zdnet.com/Orchant/?p=3D327.  The = orginal is at
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2086423,00.asp.

Rich

  "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:45b6e9dc$1@w3.nls.net...
  not sure - It's under FoxNews Technology but the writer John Pallatto=20
  appears affiliated with eweek.com. checking the archives it looks like =
Fox's=20
  Tech Tuesday is a product of Ziff Davis Media Inc. Does this mean MS =
pissed=20
  off both Fox and Ziff Davis? <g>




  "Gary Britt" <GaryNOSPAMBritt@generalcogster.com> wrote in message=20
  news:45b6e394$1@w3.nls.net...
  > Is this a Fox story or an eWeek story that is carried by Fox's =
website?
  >
  > Gary
  >
  > Rich Gauszka wrote:
  >> ROFL - looks like MS pissed off someone at Fox News
  >>
  >> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,246023,00.html
  >>
  >> The solution was quick and simple, but the irritation was enormous. =

  >> Microsoft decided it would use the security patch process to sneak =
IE 7=20
  >> onto the desktops of millions of PC users.
  >>
  >> If it was going to try this tactic, it should have at least made =
sure=20
  >> that the installation was so reliable that it would work virtually =
every=20
  >> time. Microsoft has likely set back IE 7 adoption by months at =
least for=20
  >> the people who experienced these problems.
  >>
  >> I know that I was prepared to make a permanent switch to Firefox if =
I=20
  >> found that I could not restore my IE 6 configuration. I may yet =
make=20
  >> greater use of Firefox just to reduce my dependence on Explorer.
  >>
  >> It's significant that Microsoft apparently hasn't tried a similar =
trick=20
  >> with its corporate customers who are much more particular about how =
and=20
  >> when they upgrade to any new application. The cries of outrage =
directed=20
  >> at Redmond would have been a lot louder and more anguished.
  >>
  >> There is no question that thousands of Windows XP users like myself =
have=20
  >> successfully or even deliberately installed IE 7 and are pleased =
with the=20
  >> new browsing features it gives them.
  >>
  >> But why does Microsoft believe it must treat its customers like =
children=20
  >> and trick them into installing a new application? It's like parents =

  >> tricking babies to swallow bitter medicine by mixing it with some=20
  >> applesauce.
  >>
  >> It's bad enough that the Internet allows Microsoft to reach out and =
touch=20
  >> our computers whenever it decides to do security and application =
updates.
  >>
  >> Yes, it's true this is the most efficient way for Microsoft to =
patch its=20
  >> software. Without the Internet, prompt distribution of security =
updates=20
  >> would be impossible.
  >>
  >> Then there are those annoying automated prompts that pop up every =
time=20
  >> one of your applications crashes, asking whether you want to send a =

  >> notice to Mother Microsoft, telling her what bad things those nasty =

  >> applications did to crash Windows. You are never far from the =
comforting=20
  >> arms of Microsoft.
  >>
  >> But the security update channel shouldn't be used by Microsoft to =
launch=20
  >> marketing experiments on its customers. Nor should the patch =
mechanism be=20
  >> used to spring new products on users without their full knowledge =
and=20
  >> acceptance.
  >>
  >> There should be a further examination of this process to see =
whether=20
  >> Microsoft is violating the terms of its antitrust agreements with =
state=20
  >> and federal governments by using the security patch channel as a =
sly=20
  >> technique to head off competing applications from the PC desktop.
  >>
  >> As for myself, I will forever approach future "security" updates =
with=20
  >> great caution. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on =
me."
  >>=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; It's an eweek story that =
one of the=20
Ziff Davis zdnet blogger's ridiculed and according to him so did many of =
the=20
responses to the original story.&nbsp; See <A=20
href=3D"http://blogs.zdnet.com/Orchant/?p=3D327">http://blogs.zdnet.com/O=
rchant/?p=3D327</A>.&nbsp;=20
The orginal is at <A=20
href=3D"http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2086423,00.asp">http://www.e=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV>"Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com">gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com</=
A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:45b6e9dc$1@w3.nls.net">news:45b6e9dc$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>not=20
  sure - It's under FoxNews Technology but the writer John Pallatto =
<BR>appears=20
  affiliated with eweek.com. checking the archives it looks like Fox's =
<BR>Tech=20
  Tuesday is a product of Ziff Davis Media Inc. Does this mean MS pissed =
<BR>off=20
  both Fox and Ziff Davis? &lt;g&gt;<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>"Gary Britt" =
&lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:GaryNOSPAMBritt@generalcogster.com">GaryNOSPAMBritt@genera=
lcogster.com</A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message <BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"news:45b6e394$1@w3.nls.net">news:45b6e394$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&gt; Is=20
  this a Fox story or an eWeek story that is carried by Fox's=20
  website?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Gary<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Rich Gauszka =
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
  ROFL - looks like MS pissed off someone at Fox =
News<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,246023,00.html">http://www.fo=
xnews.com/story/0,2933,246023,00.html</A><BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
  The solution was quick and simple, but the irritation was enormous.=20
  <BR>&gt;&gt; Microsoft decided it would use the security patch process =
to=20
  sneak IE 7 <BR>&gt;&gt; onto the desktops of millions of PC=20
  users.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; If it was going to try this tactic, it =
should=20
  have at least made sure <BR>&gt;&gt; that the installation was so =
reliable=20
  that it would work virtually every <BR>&gt;&gt; time. Microsoft has =
likely set=20
  back IE 7 adoption by months at least for <BR>&gt;&gt; the people who=20
  experienced these problems.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; I know that I was =
prepared=20
  to make a permanent switch to Firefox if I <BR>&gt;&gt; found that I =
could not=20
  restore my IE 6 configuration. I may yet make <BR>&gt;&gt; greater use =
of=20
  Firefox just to reduce my dependence on =
Explorer.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; It's=20
  significant that Microsoft apparently hasn't tried a similar trick=20
  <BR>&gt;&gt; with its corporate customers who are much more particular =
about=20
  how and <BR>&gt;&gt; when they upgrade to any new application. The =
cries of=20
  outrage directed <BR>&gt;&gt; at Redmond would have been a lot louder =
and more=20
  anguished.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; There is no question that thousands =
of=20
  Windows XP users like myself have <BR>&gt;&gt; successfully or even=20
  deliberately installed IE 7 and are pleased with the <BR>&gt;&gt; new =
browsing=20
  features it gives them.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; But why does Microsoft =
believe=20
  it must treat its customers like children <BR>&gt;&gt; and trick them =
into=20
  installing a new application? It's like parents <BR>&gt;&gt; tricking =
babies=20
  to swallow bitter medicine by mixing it with some <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
  applesauce.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; It's bad enough that the Internet =
allows=20
  Microsoft to reach out and touch <BR>&gt;&gt; our computers whenever =
it=20
  decides to do security and application =
updates.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Yes,=20
  it's true this is the most efficient way for Microsoft to patch its=20
  <BR>&gt;&gt; software. Without the Internet, prompt distribution of =
security=20
  updates <BR>&gt;&gt; would be impossible.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Then =
there=20
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<BR>&gt;&gt; one=20
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<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
  notice to Mother Microsoft, telling her what bad things those nasty=20
  <BR>&gt;&gt; applications did to crash Windows. You are never far from =
the=20
  comforting <BR>&gt;&gt; arms of Microsoft.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; But =
the=20
  security update channel shouldn't be used by Microsoft to launch =
<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
  marketing experiments on its customers. Nor should the patch mechanism =
be=20
  <BR>&gt;&gt; used to spring new products on users without their full =
knowledge=20
  and <BR>&gt;&gt; acceptance.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; There should be a =
further=20
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violating=20
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federal=20
  governments by using the security patch channel as a sly <BR>&gt;&gt;=20
  technique to head off competing applications from the PC=20
  desktop.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; As for myself, I will forever =
approach future=20
  "security" updates with <BR>&gt;&gt; great caution. "Fool me once, =
shame on=20
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