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Skriven 2007-02-01 09:14:12 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Users Upset at Outlook HTML Change
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   The functionality to filter Office attributes is built into Word.  =
Adam is being deceptive.  The bit he is stripping is standard HTML and = CSS,
not one of the standards compliant Office attributes that use XML = namespaces.

Rich

  "Gary Britt" <GaryNOSPAMBritt@generalcogster.com> wrote in message =
news:45c21be2$1@w3.nls.net...
  I believe MS has a free download of doc template that if loaded with =
word=20
  filters the saving of html files and strips out the MSOffice stuff.  I =
have=20
  the filter, but haven't had the occasion to use it so don't know how =
well it=20
  works.  Its available as an add-on/utility on the MS Office section of =

  Microsoft.com.  Its called something like htmfilter.dot or just =
Filter.dot.

  Gary

  Ad wrote:
  > Mike N. wrote:
  >> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:07:49 -0500, mike <mike@barkto.com> wrote:
  >>
  >>> Redmond explains its decision as such: "A big thing we heard from
  >>> customers is that they wanted the richness of the editing =
experience
  >>> they were used to from Word integrated throughout Outlook. While
  >>> Internet Explorer 7.0 is great, it was never intended to be an =
editing
  >>> tool," it said in a Knowledge Base article.
  >>
  >>    They're not living in the real world.   I've never heard anyone =
say "I
  >> want to add some Word crap to my email message".
  >=20
  > tell me about it we have to absorb "Word-ML" from old Word docs =
(i.e.=20
  > save the file as HTML & then post to an auto-munging servlet wot =
turns=20
  > it into proper XHTML so we can incorporate it into XML model =
files...
  >=20
  >=20
  > & it was painful beyond belief......including such lovely bit as :
  >=20
  > // set all class atts with MsoNormal to empty string
  >         // //.[@class=3D'MsoNormal']/@class
  >=20
  >         String xpathQ =3D "//.[@class=3D'MsoNormal']/@class";
  >         List attribs =3D XMLUtil.getNodesListXpathDoc(xpathQ, =
xmlSource);
  >         for (Iterator it =3D attribs.iterator(); it.hasNext();) {
  >             Node node =3D (Node) it.next();
  >             node.setNodeValue("");
  >         }
  >=20
  >=20
  > Adam
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16397" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; The functionality to =
filter Office=20
attributes&nbsp;is built into Word.&nbsp; Adam is being deceptive.&nbsp; = The
bit=20
he is stripping is standard HTML and CSS, not one of the standards =
compliant=20
Office attributes that use XML namespaces.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV>"Gary Britt" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:GaryNOSPAMBritt@generalcogster.com">GaryNOSPAMBritt@genera=
lcogster.com</A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:45c21be2$1@w3.nls.net">news:45c21be2$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>I=20
  believe MS has a free download of doc template that if loaded with =
word=20
  <BR>filters the saving of html files and strips out the MSOffice =
stuff.&nbsp;=20
  I have <BR>the filter, but haven't had the occasion to use it so don't =
know=20
  how well it <BR>works.&nbsp; Its available as an add-on/utility on the =
MS=20
  Office section of <BR>Microsoft.com.&nbsp; Its called something like=20
  htmfilter.dot or just Filter.dot.<BR><BR>Gary<BR><BR>Ad wrote:<BR>&gt; =
Mike N.=20
  wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt; On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:07:49 -0500, mike &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt;=20
  wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Redmond explains its decision as =
such: "A=20
  big thing we heard from<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; customers is that they wanted =
the=20
  richness of the editing experience<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; they were used to =
from Word=20
  integrated throughout Outlook. While<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Internet Explorer =
7.0 is=20
  great, it was never intended to be an editing<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; tool," =
it said=20
  in a Knowledge Base article.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
They're=20
  not living in the real world.&nbsp;&nbsp; I've never heard anyone say=20
  "I<BR>&gt;&gt; want to add some Word crap to my email =
message".<BR>&gt;=20
  <BR>&gt; tell me about it we have to absorb "Word-ML" from old Word =
docs (i.e.=20
  <BR>&gt; save the file as HTML &amp; then post to an auto-munging =
servlet wot=20
  turns <BR>&gt; it into proper XHTML so we can incorporate it into XML =
model=20
  files...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &amp; it was painful beyond=20
  belief......including such lovely bit as :<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; // set all =
class=20
  atts with MsoNormal to empty=20
  string<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; //=20
  //.[@class=3D'MsoNormal']/@class<BR>&gt;=20
  <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; String xpathQ =
=3D=20
  =
"//.[@class=3D'MsoNormal']/@class";<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  List attribs =3D XMLUtil.getNodesListXpathDoc(xpathQ,=20
  xmlSource);<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
for=20
  (Iterator it =3D attribs.iterator(); it.hasNext();)=20
  =
{<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;=20
  Node node =3D (Node)=20
  =
it.next();<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  =
node.setNodeValue("");<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;=20
  }<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Adam</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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