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Ärende: Re: class attribute and standard HTML
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From: "Rich" <@>
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Good that you now acknowledge that the HTML is standards compliant. =
I'm surprised you suggest non-compliance with a hack like "if no class = set
assume MsoNormal upon rendering". You're really being a hypocrite = here.
Word 2003 uses XML namespaces as you should have noticed from the =
HTML element
<html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"
xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
I'm surprised you haven't seen this if you have actually done any work = on
this content. Maybe you are just lying.
Rich
"Ad" <Dobbin@theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com> wrote in message =
news:45c2e695@w3.nls.net...
Rich wrote:
> Keep lying if it makes you feel better.=20
I'm not lying, you're spinning. I'm sure you're going to keep =
spinning.=20
I have no idea if a constantly changing velocity makes you feel =
better.
The class attribute, the one
> you are deleting in your example, is standard HTML. See=20
> http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.5.2.
> =20
Duuuuhhhh I know that. It's more the fact that every damn element has=20
MsoNormal on it. For no damn reason. Increases the size of the file by =
quite a margin (esp when added up with all the other MS/Word crap =
which=20
gets shoved it).
Instead MS could have taken an "if no class set assume MsoNormal upon=20
rendering" but noooooo instead let's decorate like a looney using his=20
own faeces.
As such were one to try & bring this word created crap in unfiltered=20
then your XML files would grow with loads of completely superfluous=20
MsoNormal class attributes.
> Word produces fine HTML with XML namespaces used to define =
additional=20
> attributes to support persistance of additional information not=20
> supported by HTML.=20
Ho hum. (A) Which Word? We're mostly on 2003 with other versions =
dotted=20
about. (B) I don't suppose you have a nice & simple way in which all=20
those copies of word can be set to save as std XHTML & nothing more?
Nice & clean XHTML. No silly MsoNormal decorating etc.
> Are you going to claim that XML namespaces and=20
> namespace qualified tags and attributes are wrong? =20
ROFLMAO Here comes the Spin. Divert onto another question & then start =
asking vacuous questions about that area to move the debate away from=20
the area in question.
> Do you make the same=20
> claims about all applications of XML or just those you won't to =
wrongly=20
> disparage?
> =20
& yet further from the area in question. I am disappointed that you're =
not asking about the origins of the moon.
Adam
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Good that you now =
acknowledge that the=20
HTML is standards compliant. I'm surprised you suggest = non-compliance
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a hack like "<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>if no class set =
assume=20
MsoNormal upon rendering</FONT>". You're really being a hypocrite=20
here.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Word 2003 uses XML =
namespaces as you=20
should have noticed from the HTML element</FONT></DIV>
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xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"<BR>xmlns:w=3D"urn:sch=
emas-microsoft-com:office:word"<BR>xmlns=3D"<A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm surprised you haven't seen this if =
you have=20
actually done any work on this content. Maybe you are just=20
lying.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Ad" <<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:Dobbin@theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com">Dobbin@theStablesC=
loseToTheAirport.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
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href=3D"news:45c2e695@w3.nls.net">news:45c2e695@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>Ri=
ch=20
wrote:<BR>> Keep lying if it makes you feel =
better.=20
<BR><BR>I'm not lying, you're spinning. I'm sure you're going to keep=20
spinning. <BR>I have no idea if a constantly changing velocity makes =
you feel=20
better.<BR><BR> The class attribute, the one<BR>> you are =
deleting in=20
your example, is standard HTML. See <BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.5.2">http://w=
ww.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.5.2</A>.<BR>> =20
<BR><BR>Duuuuhhhh I know that. It's more the fact that every damn =
element has=20
<BR>MsoNormal on it. For no damn reason. Increases the size of the =
file by=20
<BR>quite a margin (esp when added up with all the other MS/Word crap =
which=20
<BR>gets shoved it).<BR><BR>Instead MS could have taken an "if no =
class set=20
assume MsoNormal upon <BR>rendering" but noooooo instead let's =
decorate like a=20
looney using his <BR>own faeces.<BR><BR><BR>As such were one to try =
&=20
bring this word created crap in unfiltered <BR>then your XML files =
would grow=20
with loads of completely superfluous <BR>MsoNormal class=20
attributes.<BR><BR><BR><BR>> Word produces fine =
HTML with=20
XML namespaces used to define additional <BR>> attributes to =
support=20
persistance of additional information not <BR>> supported by HTML.=20
<BR><BR>Ho hum. (A) Which Word? We're mostly on 2003 with other =
versions=20
dotted <BR>about. (B) I don't suppose you have a nice & simple way =
in=20
which all <BR>those copies of word can be set to save as std XHTML =
&=20
nothing more?<BR><BR>Nice & clean XHTML. No silly MsoNormal =
decorating=20
etc.<BR><BR><BR>> Are you going to claim that XML namespaces and =
<BR>>=20
namespace qualified tags and attributes are wrong? =
<BR><BR>ROFLMAO Here=20
comes the Spin. Divert onto another question & then start =
<BR>asking=20
vacuous questions about that area to move the debate away from <BR>the =
area in=20
question.<BR><BR>> Do you make the same <BR>> claims about all=20
applications of XML or just those you won't to wrongly <BR>>=20
disparage?<BR>> <BR><BR>& yet further from the area in =
question.=20
I am disappointed that you're <BR>not asking about the origins of the=20
moon.<BR><BR>Adam</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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