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Ärende: Re: class attribute and standard HTML
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From: "Rich" <@>
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I see you try to change the topic instead of support your repeated =
bogus claims. I hope you at least tried to better yourself by reading = the
HTML and CSS standards. This would help keep you from putting your = foot in
your mouth again in the future.
Rich
"Adam" <particle@SomewhereOnTheOuterEdgeOfTheUniverse.com> wrote in =
message news:45c87328@w3.nls.net...
Rich wrote:
> Don't ask me but your definition of crap includes standard=20
> compliant. It appears that you use the term "crap" for things you =
wish=20
> to whine about without regard to other factors like standards.
> =20
What complete & utter bollox. Stds compliant? While being built to =
cope=20
with IE6'es completely arbitrary handling of "standards"???
ROFL.
So IE 6 is standards compliant in it's handling of CSS is it?
> MsoNormal is the name of the HTML/CSS class. I'll refer you to =
the=20
> HTML and CSS standards for a description of how this works. The =
name=20
> doesn't matter. It could have been AdamIsAnIdiot and it would still =
be=20
> standards compliant. Assuming the presence of a class when not =
declared=20
> is a violation of the standards. Again, I'll refer you to the HTML =
and=20
> CSS standards for a description of how this works.
> =20
Oh gosh don't refer it to me, try referring it to you IE6 team coz=20
they're the ones who built the PoS.
gee here is someone else who seems to have noticed the same thing:
http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2004/01/26/ie_factor.html
"Without a doubt, the biggest challenge I encounter each time is in=20
wrangling Microsoft=92s Internet Explorer browser. This devil does not =
play fair. It often follows no rules, and its behavior defies all =
common=20
logic. It will double margins for no apparent reason. Borders =
disappear,=20
62 pixels magically turn into 143 pixels. It dodges left when other=20
browsers go right. I=92ve decided to call this phenomenon =93the IE =
Factor=94.=20
(Those familiar with authoring DHTML four or five years ago already =
know=20
where I=92m headed with this.)"
> I was describing Word 2003 though the same applies to Word 2007. =
I=20
> give you the html element with the XML namespaces and you try to =
refute=20
> this by excerpting some other portion of a document. Are you dim? =
You=20
> fly totally off the handle with your comment
> =20
Hardly. Your diversion was so obvious that it's humorous. You witter =
on=20
about namespaces where the namespaces are not used given that the HTML =
part is in the default i.e. no namespace area.
>=20
> HTML 4 stuff is simply using no
> namespace/default namespace i.e. the comment is completely =
irrelevant &
> as usual a canard.
>=20
> Look at the html element again and note that a default namespace is=20
> provided.
>
Well full marks for spotting the obvious. Pity you had to try to =
divert=20
onto such an obvious ruse. So the HTML has no/the default namspace ie. =
a=20
<p> is simply a <p> . Gee whiz.
Adam
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I see you try to change =
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tried=20
to better yourself by reading the HTML and CSS standards. This = would
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Adam" <<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:particle@SomewhereOnTheOuterEdgeOfTheUniverse.com">particl=
e@SomewhereOnTheOuterEdgeOfTheUniverse.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
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href=3D"news:45c87328@w3.nls.net">news:45c87328@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>Ri=
ch=20
wrote:<BR>> Don't ask me but your definition of =
crap=20
includes standard <BR>> compliant. It appears that you use =
the term=20
"crap" for things you wish <BR>> to whine about without regard to =
other=20
factors like standards.<BR>> <BR><BR>What complete & =
utter=20
bollox. Stds compliant? While being built to cope <BR>with IE6'es =
completely=20
arbitrary handling of "standards"???<BR><BR>ROFL.<BR><BR>So IE 6 is =
standards=20
compliant in it's handling of CSS is it?<BR><BR>> =
MsoNormal is the name of the HTML/CSS class. I'll refer you to =
the=20
<BR>> HTML and CSS standards for a description of how this =
works. The=20
name <BR>> doesn't matter. It could have been AdamIsAnIdiot =
and it=20
would still be <BR>> standards compliant. Assuming the =
presence of a=20
class when not declared <BR>> is a violation of the =
standards. Again,=20
I'll refer you to the HTML and <BR>> CSS standards for a =
description of how=20
this works.<BR>> <BR><BR>Oh gosh don't refer it to me, try =
referring=20
it to you IE6 team coz <BR>they're the ones who built the =
PoS.<BR><BR>gee here=20
is someone else who seems to have noticed the same thing:<BR><BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2004/01/26/ie_factor.html">http://w=
ww.stopdesign.com/log/2004/01/26/ie_factor.html</A><BR><BR>"Without=20
a doubt, the biggest challenge I encounter each time is in =
<BR>wrangling=20
Microsoft=92s Internet Explorer browser. This devil does not <BR>play =
fair. It=20
often follows no rules, and its behavior defies all common <BR>logic. =
It will=20
double margins for no apparent reason. Borders disappear, <BR>62 =
pixels=20
magically turn into 143 pixels. It dodges left when other <BR>browsers =
go=20
right. I=92ve decided to call this phenomenon =93the IE Factor=94. =
<BR>(Those=20
familiar with authoring DHTML four or five years ago already know =
<BR>where=20
I=92m headed with this.)"<BR><BR>> I was =
describing Word=20
2003 though the same applies to Word 2007. I <BR>> give you =
the html=20
element with the XML namespaces and you try to refute <BR>> this by =
excerpting some other portion of a document. Are you dim? =
You=20
<BR>> fly totally off the handle with your comment<BR>> =20
<BR><BR>Hardly. Your diversion was so obvious that it's humorous. You =
witter=20
on <BR>about namespaces where the namespaces are not used given that =
the HTML=20
<BR>part is in the default i.e. no namespace area.<BR><BR><BR>>=20
<BR>> HTML 4 stuff is simply using=20
no<BR>> namespace/default namespace i.e. =
the=20
comment is completely irrelevant &<BR>> =
as=20
usual a canard.<BR>> <BR>> Look at the html element again and =
note that=20
a default namespace is <BR>> provided.<BR>><BR><BR><BR>Well full =
marks=20
for spotting the obvious. Pity you had to try to divert <BR>onto such =
an=20
obvious ruse. So the HTML has no/the default namspace ie. a =
<BR><p> is=20
simply a <p> . Gee whiz.<BR><BR>Adam</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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