Text 16190, 78 rader
Skriven 2007-02-16 23:44:54 av Mark (1:379/45)
  Kommentar till text 16188 av Geo. (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: where the hell is my global warming?
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From: "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com>

Phosphates! -- I remember the big starburst labels on the boxes/jugs proudly
declaring they were "Phosphate Free!" Haven't seen that for awhile now, but
it's probably still in the fine print.

Oil burners -- When my parents sold their house some years ago, there were
non-stop ads on TV about how great oil heat was -- yet their realtor was
marking their marketability down because they had an oil tank (never thought of
it at the time, but she must have been a greenie) -- she was wrong it sold just
fine. I was puzzled back then as to why a realtor would look for drawbacks,
especially in the face of effectively free advertising for her!

Energy Credits -- Back in the early 80s I was researching the tax credits
available for solar additions, they were there and black drums full of water
counted for thermal storage. My idea was a greenhouse lean-to addition with the
drums up against the house for that storage. It was rudimentary, and though it
would have worked, for one reason or another it never came to fruitarian. But
to the credit of NJ and the utility companies here, they do still have very
heavy duty actual cash rebates as well as ongoing credits for solar panels now.

Genetically engineered fast growing pine forests -- Fuhgettaboutit, anything
genetic (except embryo stem cell research) is verboten.




"Geo." <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:45d680a9@w3.nls.net...
> "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45d67963$1@w3.nls.net...
>> Similarly, one of the first GroupThink(tm) initiatives I recall was
>> banning cyclamates back in the late 60s, early 70s. At least though, that
>> only made diet things rarer for a time, and more expensive later, as
>> opposed to the ongoing killing of people with the GroupThink(tm) DDT ban.
>
> Oh and don't forget that stuff in laundry detergent that caused algae
> growth (phosphates?), pffft we could use that now.. algae removes co2..
>
>> I'm not sure how many will die for "carbon footprints" but it could be
>> potentially all of us, as I'm coming to believe that if there is any
>> "human caused" global warming, it in itself may be the only thing that
>> allows us to make it through the coming ice age that they, the "Global
>> Coolists," were predicting a mere 30 years ago...
>
> I agree, however it's also clear that CO2 levels are sharply up. This does
> need to be addressed even if it's not causing global warming. The thing
> that bothers me is no talk about giving property tax breaks if you replace
> your lawn with forest, why can't they come up with helpful ideas like that
> which would save us money instead of costing us money? Removal of lawn in
> favor of forest not only produces more oxygen and reduces co2 levels, it
> also means no lawn mowers so less co2 emissions. It means less direct wind
> against the house in winter, burns less heating oil, it means more shade
> in summer so air conditioners don't burn as much electricity, another
> savings of both money and co2 emissions, etc..
>
> Oh hey here's a thought, if someone replaces an old oil burring furnace
> with a new 90% efficient model, let them take the entire cost of the new
> furnace as a tax deduction against their gross for the next few years,
> that ought to motivate a bunch of folks to become more efficient and save
> them money and reduce our dependence on foreign oil.
>
> In this country we have vast plaines where we could easily plant
> genetically engineered fast growing pine forests, why no talk about that
> as a way to reduce co2 output? We can easily cause algae blooms in the
> open oceans, another co2 reducer. Tax coal burning electricity generation
> and use every dime of tax to subsidize pebble bed reactor construction.
> Instead of California passing a law to make florescent light bulbs
> required, pass a law so that they can be sold with no sales tax while
> other bulbs are subject to sales tax.
>
> Instead they want us to burn alcohol laden fuel as the big solution and
> this after ADM bought all the major domestic ethanol producers? Oh and
> using corn as an ethanol source, ADM is supermarket to the world, a food
> company, wonder how this will affect their bottom line. Get real..
>
> Geo.

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