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Skriven 2007-02-28 09:51:14 av Rich Gauszka (1:379/45)
     Kommentar till en text av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Adobe 8 Activation  nightmare
=========================================
From: "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com>

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Yet legally purchased Microsoft certified PlaysForSure music will not =
'play for sure' on the Zune. You may not regard this restrictive =
interoperability fiasco as a DRM problem but I do.
  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:45e51467@w3.nls.net...
     The article to which you referred claimed that music purchased from =
the Zune store plays on PlaysForSure devices.  There doesn't seem to be = the
restrictive problem that apple has with the itunes store.

     Even with apple's itunes problems in Europe, I don't see anything =
that I would consider a quagmire.  The problems they do exist are with =
interoperabilty and lock in not with the DRM itself.

  Rich

    "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:45e502d3@w3.nls.net...
    Yet there are multiple standards issued from the same company for =
copy protection( PlaysForSure, Zune DRM ). I wouldn't describe that as =
attempting to avoid interoperability problems.

     FWIW - My diatribe isn't meant to be directed at Microsoft solely - =
just the current quagmire that is DRM


      "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:45e4fc3e@w3.nls.net...
         PlaysForSure tackles the same problem as apple tries with =
itunes and their fairplay.  The key difference is that PlaysForSure is = widely
licensed to avoid the interoperability problems that apple has = with itunes. 
Apple could license PlaysForSure if they wanted.

         I don't think the DRM applications to which you refer to are =
generically corporate interests as much as they are content owner = interests. 
This is why steve jobs stated the obvious when asserting = that he would like
to offer other people's content without any DRM.  Of = course he would as would
probably everyone else who has no interest in = the content itself.

      Rich

        "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:45e4f15d$1@w3.nls.net...
        or you have the idiocy with Microsoft's PlaysForSure =
certification. DRM=20
        is currently a mess with various corporate entities in a power =
struggle=20
        for control of a market without care of how it affects (screws) =
the=20
        consumer. The average consumer I know either by facial =
expression or=20
        vocally expresses a dissatisfaction with the current state of =
affairs

        http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/337/C11865/

        While it still appears to be true that PlaysForSure content =
won't work=20
        on a Zune, the reverse is completely hunky doory. You can =
seemingly drag=20
        songs from the Zune Marketplace onto any PlaysForSure device, =
like=20
        offerings from Rio and Creative.



        Rich wrote:
        >    I don't see average consumers misusing the term.  I see =
strongly=20
        > opinionated and technical folks like those that would have =
their own=20
        > blog or would post to a public forum.  This isn't a consumer =
topic=20
        > beyond that some folks are trying to make it one.  That isn't =
to say=20
        > there aren't real issues with interoperability and longevity =
such as you=20
        > read about lately with itunes.  This is just a single =
application of=20
        > DRM.  The same aspects that are an issue for this application =
are not=20
        > issues for the application of DRM to your medical records or =
sensitive=20
        > corporate documents.
        > =20
        > Rich
        > =20
        >=20
        >     "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com
        >     <mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com>> wrote in message
        >     news:45e4e27a$1@w3.nls.net...
        >     I don't disagree. The notable constant though is that =
people are
        >     including DRM in their complaints just because they can. =
If DRM was as
        >     beneficial for consumers as the industry propagandists =
spout I highly
        >     doubt you'd see this trend.
        >=20
        >=20
        >     Rich wrote:
        >      >    It's not just DRM and this, it's DRM and anything =
people want to
        >      > complain about that can be stretched to garner more =
support.=20
        >     Broadly I
        >      > see it used for anything that restricts access, =
copying, or
        >     similar.  I
        >      > think people believe they will get more sympathy for =
their
        >     position from
        >      > a certain audience if they apply the term DRM than if =
they are
        >     honest.
        >      >=20
        >      > Rich
        >      >=20
        >      >
        >      >     "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com
        >     <mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com>
        >      >     <mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com>> wrote in =
message
        >      >     news:45e4b899@w3.nls.net...
        >      >     I understand the point you are making. =
Unfortunately, like it
        >     or not,
        >      >     DRM and Activation are starting to be used =
interchangeably in
        >     everyday
        >      >     use ( as in the Infoworld Gripeline blog )
        >      >
        >      >
        >      >     Rich wrote:
        >      >      >    This is neither a content nor a service which =
is one
        >     reason I
        >      >      > questioned the use of DRM.  I think the new =
subject is
        >     appropriate.
        >      >      >
        >      >      > Rich
        >      >      >
        >      >      >
        >      >      >     "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com
        >     <mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com>
        >      >     <mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com>
        >      >      >     <mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com>> wrote =
in message
        >      >      >     news:45e4b05e$1@w3.nls.net...
        >      >      >     It's an inane activation scheme. From =
Microsoft's own
        >      >     definition one
        >      >      >     could make the case that Adobe's activation =
is a content
        >      >     owner setting
        >      >      >     the business rules of a file ( a program in =
this case
        >     ). Most
        >      >     would use
        >      >      >     'activation' for clarity in this context - =
so Subject
        >     changed
        >      >      >
        >      >      >     =
http://www.microsoft.com/security/glossary.mspx#d
        >      >      >
        >      >      >     digital rights management (DRM)
        >      >      >
        >      >      >     Any technology used to protect the interests =
of owners of
        >      >     content and
        >      >      >     services (such as copyright owners). =
Typically, authorized
        >      >      >     recipients or
        >      >      >     users must acquire a license in order to =
consume the
        >     protected
        >      >      >     material=97files, music, movies=97according =
to the rights or
        >      >     business rules
        >      >      >     set by the content owner.
        >      >      >
        >      >      >
        >      >      >     Rich wrote:
        >      >      >      >    What does this have to do with DRM?  =
Or do you
        >     use DRM for
        >      >      >     everything
        >      >      >      > from actual DRM to encrypted email to =
password
        >     protected ZIP
        >      >      >     files to
        >      >      >      > SSL/TLS?
        >      >      >      >
        >      >      >      > Rich
        >      >      >      >
        >      >      >      >
        >      >      >      >     "Rich Gauszka" =
<gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com
        >     <mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com>
        >      >     <mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com>
        >      >      >     <mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com>
        >      >      >      >     <mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com>> =
wrote in
        >     message
        >      >      >      >     news:45e4792a$1@w3.nls.net...
        >      >      >      >     Adobe - If you use a disk defragger =
the
        >     activation doesn't
        >      >      >     like it?
        >      >      >      >
        >      >      >      > =20
        >      >      >  =20
        >      >   =20
        >     =
http://weblog.infoworld.com/gripeline/archives/2007/02/acrobat_activat.ht=
ml
        >      >      >      >     when it comes to stupid IT designs as =
far as the
        >      >     activation
        >      >      >     issues I
        >      >      >      >     encountered with Adobe. I upgraded =
from Acrobat
        >     7.0 to
        >      >     8.0,
        >      >      >     because the
        >      >      >      >     demos and features looked great. =
After
        >     installing it,
        >      >     I didn't
        >      >      >      >     really use it
        >      >      >      >     for a few months. Then I went to use =
it and it
        >     said it
        >      >     was not
        >      >      >      >     activated."
        >      >      >      >
        >      >      >      >
        >      >      >      >     When the reader went to the menu, he =
was puzzled to
        >      >     see both the
        >      >      >      >     "Activate'
        >      >      >      >     and "Deactivate' buttons turned off. =
"Seems
        >     stupid --
        >      >      >     shouldn't one
        >      >      >      >     always
        >      >      >      >     be highlighted?" the reader wondered. =
"After
        >     calling in,
        >      >      >     Adobe told
        >      >      >      >     me to
        >      >      >      >     run the repair function. I did, and =
it worked
        >     for one day,
        >      >      >     and then
        >      >      >      >     it was
        >      >      >      >     deactivated again and both buttons =
were off
        >     again. I
        >      >     called again
        >      >      >      >     and waited
        >      >      >      >     on hold forever to be told to =
uninstall and
        >     reinstall.
        >      >     So I
        >      >      >      >     uninstalled and
        >      >      >      >     it deactivated. I went to reinstall =
and it said
        >     I did
        >      >     not have an
        >      >      >      >     original
        >      >      >      >     product to upgrade from. Wow, like =
I'm supposed to
        >      >     keep all
        >      >      >      >     hundred-plus key
        >      >      >      >     codes I've ever had from Adobe. So =
after about
        >     3 more
        >      >     people
        >      >      >     and a
        >      >      >      >     lot more
        >      >      >      >     time on the phone I got around the =
installation and
        >      >     activated
        >      >      >     again
        >      >      >      >     with a
        >      >      >      >     temp key. Then within hours it =
deactivated again."
        >      >      >      >
        >      >      >      >
        >      >      >      >     The reader then entered a support =
nightmare
        >     from which
        >      >     he is
        >      >      >     yet to
        >      >      >      >     awaken.
        >      >      >      >     For weeks on end, tech after tech =
would tell him to
        >      >     run the
        >      >      >     repair
        >      >      >      >     function
        >      >      >      >     and reinstall. When that wouldn't =
work, the techs
        >      >     would begin
        >      >      >      >     speculating as
        >      >      >      >     to what changes he should make to him =
computer to
        >      >     placate the
        >      >      >      >     activation
        >      >      >      >     gods. "Gee, the guy would say, why do =
you need to
        >      >     mirror your
        >      >      >     hard
        >      >      >      >     drive?"
        >      >      >      >     the reader wrote. "Then they send me =
to another and
        >      >     the guy says,
        >      >      >      >     gee, if
        >      >      >      >     you upgrade or restore your drive, or =
change your
        >      >      >     configuration, or
        >      >      >      >     backup
        >      >      >      >     to Ghost, or use a RAID array, or use =
a disk
        >      >     defragger, the
        >      >      >     activation
        >      >      >      >     doesn't like it. Then they start =
asking why I
        >     need to
        >      >     do these
        >      >      >      >     things, which
        >      >      >      >     is none of their business."
        >      >      >      >
        >      >      >      >
        >      >      >      >     Some of the Adobe techs mentioned =
that what the
        >     reader
        >      >     really
        >      >      >     needed
        >      >      >      >     to fix
        >      >      >      >     the activation problem was "Patch =
2.70."
        >      >     Unfortunately, it seems
        >      >      >      >     Patch 2.70
        >      >      >      >     is not provided to just any old =
Acrobat
        >     customer, and the
        >      >      >     reader had to
        >      >      >      >     supplicate his way up the support =
ladder to find
        >      >     someone who
        >      >      >     could
        >      >      >      >     authorize
        >      >      >      >     sending it to him. "I finally get to =
the right
        >     guy and
        >      >     he asks me
        >      >      >      >     why I need
        >      >      >      >     it and why I can't stop mirroring and
        >     defragging and
        >      >     using Ghost.
        >      >      >      >     Finally he
        >      >      >      >     says he'll escalate the issue and =
I'll have an
        >     e-mail
        >      >     in 24
        >      >      >     hours.
        >      >      >      >     Next day
        >      >      >      >     there's no e-mail so I call back. It =
was never
        >      >     escalated and
        >      >      >     I have
        >      >      >      >     to start
        >      >      >      >     the process of filing to get the =
patch all over
        >     again."
        >      >      >      >
        >      >      >      >
        >      >      >      >     The reader is a stubborn man, though, =
and he
        >      >     eventually prevailed
        >      >      >      >     upon Adobe
        >      >      >      >     to send him Patch 2.70. It didn't =
help. Several
        >     more
        >      >     weeks of
        >      >      >      >     escalations to
        >      >      >      >     supervisors and higher levels of =
Adobe support have
        >      >     followed,
        >      >      >     without
        >      >      >      >     success. Last week Adobe promised to =
send him a
        >     copy
        >      >     of Acrobat -
        >      >      >      >     presumably
        >      >      >      >     the corporate version - that would =
get around
        >     the problem.
        >      >      >     But at last
        >      >      >      >     report it still hasn't shown, so the =
reader's
        >     copy of
        >      >     Acrobat
        >      >      >     8 remains
        >      >      >      >     deactivated.
        >      >      >      >
        >      >      >      >
        >      >      >      >     "The amount of time, support, and =
money that
        >     Adobe and
        >      >     I have
        >      >      >     wasted
        >      >      >      >     on this
        >      >      >      >     is crazy," the reader wrote. "I =
understand
        >     protecting your
        >      >      >     product, but
        >      >      >      >     these people have gone way overboard =
with this
        >      >     activation that's
        >      >      >      >     tied so
        >      >      >      >     closely to the hardware that you =
can't do anything
        >      >     that doesn't
        >      >      >      >     upset it.
        >      >      >      >     Many people back up, restore, defrag =
and mirror
        >     disks and
        >      >      >     many more
        >      >      >      >     will do
        >      >      >      >     so as the prices come down. I think =
Adobe needs to
        >      >     clean some
        >      >      >      >     management
        >      >      >      >     house, toss out this stupid =
activation process, and
        >      >     get something
        >      >      >      >     that works
        >      >      >      >     instead of the runaround."
        >      >      >      >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yet legally purchased Microsoft =
certified=20
PlaysForSure music will not 'play for sure' on the Zune. You may not = regard
this=20
restrictive interoperability fiasco as a DRM problem but I = do.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:45e51467@w3.nls.net">news:45e51467@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; The article to which you =
referred=20
  claimed that music purchased from the Zune store plays on PlaysForSure =

  devices.&nbsp; There doesn't seem to be the restrictive problem that =
apple has=20
  with the itunes store.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Even with apple's itunes =
problems in=20
  Europe, I don't see anything that I would consider a quagmire.&nbsp; =
The=20
  problems they do exist are with interoperabilty and lock in not with =
the DRM=20
  itself.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV>"Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com">gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com</=
A>&gt;=20
    wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:45e502d3@w3.nls.net">news:45e502d3@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yet there are multiple standards =
issued from=20
    the same company for copy protection( PlaysForSure, Zune DRM ). I =
wouldn't=20
    describe that as attempting to avoid interoperability =
problems.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;FWIW - My diatribe isn't =
meant to be=20
    directed at Microsoft solely&nbsp;- just the current quagmire that =
is=20
    DRM</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
      =
href=3D"news:45e4fc3e@w3.nls.net">news:45e4fc3e@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; PlaysForSure tackles =
the same=20
      problem as apple tries with itunes and their fairplay.&nbsp; The =
key=20
      difference is that PlaysForSure is widely licensed to avoid the=20
      interoperability problems that apple has with itunes.&nbsp; Apple =
could=20
      license PlaysForSure if they wanted.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't think the =
DRM=20
      applications to which you refer to are generically corporate =
interests as=20
      much as they are content owner interests.&nbsp; This is why steve =
jobs=20
      stated the obvious when asserting that he would like to offer =
other=20
      people's content without any DRM.&nbsp; Of course he would as =
would=20
      probably everyone else who has no interest in the content=20
      itself.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE=20
      style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV>"Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com</=
A>&gt;=20
        wrote in message <A=20
        =
href=3D"news:45e4f15d$1@w3.nls.net">news:45e4f15d$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>or=20
        you have the idiocy with Microsoft's PlaysForSure certification. =
DRM=20
        <BR>is currently a mess with various corporate entities in a =
power=20
        struggle <BR>for control of a market without care of how it =
affects=20
        (screws) the <BR>consumer. The average consumer I know either by =
facial=20
        expression or <BR>vocally expresses a dissatisfaction with the =
current=20
        state of affairs<BR><BR><A=20
        =
href=3D"http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/337/C11865/">http://www.mobi=
lemag.com/content/100/337/C11865/</A><BR><BR>While=20
        it still appears to be true that PlaysForSure content won't work =
<BR>on=20
        a Zune, the reverse is completely hunky doory. You can seemingly =
drag=20
        <BR>songs from the Zune Marketplace onto any PlaysForSure =
device, like=20
        <BR>offerings from Rio and Creative.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Rich=20
        wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't see average consumers =
misusing=20
        the term.&nbsp; I see strongly <BR>&gt; opinionated and =
technical folks=20
        like those that would have their own <BR>&gt; blog or would post =
to a=20
        public forum.&nbsp; This isn't a consumer topic <BR>&gt; beyond =
that=20
        some folks are trying to make it one.&nbsp; That isn't to say =
<BR>&gt;=20
        there aren't real issues with interoperability and longevity =
such as you=20
        <BR>&gt; read about lately with itunes.&nbsp; This is just a =
single=20
        application of <BR>&gt; DRM.&nbsp; The same aspects that are an =
issue=20
        for this application are not <BR>&gt; issues for the application =
of DRM=20
        to your medical records or sensitive <BR>&gt; corporate=20
        documents.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; Rich<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;=20
        <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com</=
A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;&gt;=20
        wrote in message<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
        =
href=3D"news:45e4e27a$1@w3.nls.net">news:45e4e27a$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        I don't disagree. The notable constant though is that people=20
        are<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; including DRM in their =
complaints=20
        just because they can. If DRM was =
as<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        beneficial for consumers as the industry propagandists spout I=20
        highly<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; doubt you'd see this=20
        trend.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Rich=20
        wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It's=20
        not just DRM and this, it's DRM and anything people want=20
        to<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; complain about =
that can be=20
        stretched to garner more support. =
<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        Broadly I<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; see it used =
for=20
        anything that restricts access, copying,=20
        or<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; similar.&nbsp;=20
        I<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; think people =
believe they=20
        will get more sympathy for their<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

        position from<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; a =
certain=20
        audience if they apply the term DRM than if they=20
        are<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        honest.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
        <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
        Rich<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
        <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        "Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com</=
A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;&gt;=20
        wrote in message<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
        =
href=3D"news:45e4b899@w3.nls.net">news:45e4b899@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&gt;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I understand the point you are =
making.=20
        Unfortunately, like it<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; or=20
        not,<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        DRM and Activation are starting to be used interchangeably=20
        in<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        everyday<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; use ( as in the Infoworld Gripeline =
blog=20
        )<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        Rich wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This =
is=20
        neither a content nor a service which is=20
        one<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; reason=20
        I<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt; questioned the use of =
DRM.&nbsp;=20
        I think the new subject is<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        appropriate.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;=20
        Rich<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
"Rich=20
        Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com</=
A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@-nospam-hotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;&gt;=20
        wrote in message<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
<A=20
        =
href=3D"news:45e4b05e$1@w3.nls.net">news:45e4b05e$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
It's an=20
        inane activation scheme. From Microsoft's=20
        own<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        definition one<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
could=20
        make the case that Adobe's activation is a=20
        content<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; owner=20
        setting<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
the=20
        business rules of a file ( a program in this=20
        case<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ).=20
        Most<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        would use<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        'activation' for clarity in this context - so=20
        Subject<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        changed<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
<A=20
        =
href=3D"http://www.microsoft.com/security/glossary.mspx#d">http://www.mic=
rosoft.com/security/glossary.mspx#d</A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
digital=20
        rights management (DRM)<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Any=20
        technology used to protect the interests of owners=20
        of<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        content and<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
services=20
        (such as copyright owners). Typically,=20
        authorized<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        recipients or<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
users=20
        must acquire a license in order to consume=20
        the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        protected<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        material=97files, music, movies=97according to the rights=20
        or<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        business rules<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
set by=20
        the content owner.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Rich=20
        wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What does this have to do with DRM?&nbsp; =
Or do=20
        you<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; use DRM=20
        for<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        everything<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt; from actual DRM to encrypted email to=20
        password<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; protected=20
        ZIP<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
files=20
        to<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt; SSL/TLS?<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt; Rich<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com">gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com</=
A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com">mailto:gauszka@dontspamhotmai=
l.com</A>&gt;&gt;=20
        wrote in<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        message<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
        =
href=3D"news:45e4792a$1@w3.nls.net">news:45e4792a$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Adobe - If you use a disk defragger =

        the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; activation=20
        doesn't<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
like=20
        it?<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        <BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
        =
href=3D"http://weblog.infoworld.com/gripeline/archives/2007/02/acrobat_ac=
tivat.html">http://weblog.infoworld.com/gripeline/archives/2007/02/acroba=
t_activat.html</A><BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; when it comes to stupid IT designs =
as far=20
        as the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        activation<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
issues=20
        I<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; encountered with Adobe. I upgraded =
from=20
        Acrobat<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 7.0=20
        to<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        8.0,<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
because=20
        the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; demos and features looked great.=20
        After<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; installing=20
        it,<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I=20
        didn't<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; really use=20
        it<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; for a few months. Then I went to =
use it and=20
        it<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; said=20
        it<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        was not<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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