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Text 1714, 122 rader
Skriven 2005-01-02 13:17:36 av Rich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 1702 av Mike N. (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Usage history
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   All this is paranoia about what someone could do and has never been =
about what actually is done.

   Continuing with your paranoia, cookies and auth events are not =
available in any single location.  Cookies require you to go to each and =
every client, more than just the ISPs.  Auth events require you to go to = each
and every site that authenticates.  Your ISP is the one to fear.  = They don't
have to care about the whole world.  They can just track = their customers and
make good money selling information on what you do.  = If law enforcement is
interested in you they have many options though = your ISP is likely their best
bet just like the phone company is for = your telephone calls.

Rich

  "Mike N." <mike@u-spam-u-die.net> wrote in message =
news:bv5gt0lge9smbo75e9el00jc9er8l1sor2@4ax.com...
  On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 21:13:23 +1200, dmhills@attglobal.net (Don Hills)
  wrote:

  >>   What you should really fear if you are the paranoid type is your =
ISP.
  >> They can see and track everything you do.  It makes paranoia about =
the
  >>little bit of your activity that is authentication seem just silly.

     It all comes down to feasibility.  Sure your ISP *could* track
  everything you do.  This may or may not be relevant depending on the =
type
  of privacy required.

    However, this requires that a single organization (Insurers, Law
  Enforcement, government, private investigators) go to ALL 5,000 ISPs =
in the
  US, and have them start to collect data on everyone.   Why would they =
do
  this if the information is available from a central location (cookie
  tracking, single signon access, etc)?

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; All this is paranoia about =
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someone could do and has never been about what actually is = done.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Continuing with your =
paranoia, cookies=20
and auth events are not available in any single location.&nbsp; Cookies =
require=20
you to go to each and every client, more than just the ISPs.&nbsp; Auth =
events=20
require you to go to each and every site that authenticates.&nbsp; Your = ISP
is=20
the one to fear.&nbsp; They don't have to care about the whole = world.&nbsp;
They=20
can just track their customers and make good money selling information = on
what=20
you do.&nbsp; If law enforcement is interested in you they have many =
options=20
though your ISP is likely their best bet just like the phone company is = for
your=20
telephone calls.</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><BR>Rich</DIV>
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  <DIV>"Mike N." &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:mike@u-spam-u-die.net">mike@u-spam-u-die.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
  message <A=20
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  Hills)<BR>wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; What you should really =
fear if=20
  you are the paranoid type is your ISP.<BR>&gt;&gt; They can see and =
track=20
  everything you do.&nbsp; It makes paranoia about the<BR>&gt;&gt;little =
bit of=20
  your activity that is authentication seem just =
silly.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; It=20
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track<BR>everything=20
  you do.&nbsp; This may or may not be relevant depending on the =
type<BR>of=20
  privacy required.<BR><BR>&nbsp; However, this requires that a single=20
  organization (Insurers, Law<BR>Enforcement, government, private =
investigators)=20
  go to ALL 5,000 ISPs in the<BR>US, and have them start to collect data =
on=20
  everyone.&nbsp;&nbsp; Why would they do<BR>this if the information is=20
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