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Skriven 2005-01-06 18:58:12 av Geo (1:379/45)
Kommentar till text 1784 av Rich (1:379/45)
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From: "Geo" <georger@nls.net>
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I think you are being very sensitive about passport, I have not said = passport
saves your credit card number, I said it was a discussion about = passport and
I made the statement that people don't want their computers = to remember
passwords or credit card information (I mentioned credit = card information
because that's what Amazon does although it's not on = the client end) because
they don't view the computer as a secure device. = My comment below
specifically addresses the computer remembering a = password.
I wasn't picking on passport, I was picking on the whole concept of = having
the computer remember information that is designed to confirm the = identity of
the user not the computer. That information needs to be = stored on the user
not on the computer. A memory stick, a programmable = ring, a magnetic ID card,
something that goes with the user when he = moves away from the computer.
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:41dcbccf@w3.nls.net...
Nope. Look at the bull you just wrote attempting to make a =
connection between Passport and people saving passwords and credit card =
numbers on their own computers. Your original statements to which I = replied
at the start of this thread were
It boiled down to too few people trusting their computer with their =
credit
card number. Sort of like what's the point of a password if the =
computer is
going to enter it for you..
Aside from your bogus connection between this and Passport, how =
dense must you be to continue to claim that people don't trust their =
computers when there is plenty of evidence that they not only do what = you
claim otherwise, save passwords and credit card numbers, but they = trust not
just their computers which they control but also unknown = parties on the
Internet? Why do you believe that spyware is so = successful getting itself
installed with free software like kazaa or by = other means that require the
users to make a conscious choice to run or = install software from the Internet
if the users are supposedly so = distrustful?
Rich
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:41dcb5a0$1@w3.nls.net...
I think you have me confused with someone else, what claims about =
passport did I make?
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:41dcb3cc$1@w3.nls.net...
First off, I called on your lies about Passport. What is the =
point of having any discussion with you when you repeated post bullshit = and
use it to attempt to support some claim you are trying to make?
Our discussion from that point on, after to moved on from your =
initial lies, has been you failing to support the claim that people = don't
trust the computer itself and the plenty of examples that they do = trust the
computer and much more. Again, if people really weren't so = trusting, why do
they continue to choose to install spyware, fall for = phishing scams, etc.
Rich
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:41dcafb4$1@w3.nls.net...
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:41dca3b6$1@w3.nls.net...
>>All your examples have been problems that other people have =
that you claim
imply that they distrust the computer instead of the people =
behind their
problems.<<
I'm fairly sure they don't trust the virus writers and hackers =
either but
this started out as a discussion about passport and my comment =
was that
people don't want their computer storing passwords and credit =
card numbers
because they don't trust it as a secure device.
We seem to have come full circle now so I'll just shut up.
Geo.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think you are being very sensitive =
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passport, I have not said passport saves your credit card number, I said = it
was=20
a discussion about passport and I made the statement that people don't =
want=20
their computers to remember passwords or credit card information (I =
mentioned credit card information because that's what Amazon does = although
it's=20
not on the client end) because they don't view the computer as a =
secure=20
device. My comment below specifically addresses the computer remembering = a=20
password.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wasn't picking on passport, I was =
picking on the=20
whole concept of having the computer remember information that is = designed=20
to confirm the identity of the user not the computer. That =
information=20
needs to be stored on the user not on the computer. A memory stick, a=20
programmable ring, a magnetic ID card, something that goes with the user = when
he=20
moves away from the computer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Nope. Look at the =
bull you=20
just wrote attempting to make a connection between Passport and people =
saving=20
passwords and credit card numbers on their own computers. Your =
original=20
statements to which I replied at the start of this thread =
were</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>It boiled down to too few people trusting their computer with =
their=20
credit<BR>card number. Sort of like what's the point of a password =
if the=20
computer is<BR>going to enter it for you..</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Aside from your bogus =
connection=20
between this and Passport, how dense must you be to continue to claim =
that=20
people don't trust their computers when there is plenty of evidence =
that they=20
not only do what you claim otherwise, save passwords and credit card =
numbers,=20
but they trust not just their computers which they control but also =
unknown=20
parties on the Internet? Why do you believe that spyware is so=20
successful getting itself installed with free software like kazaa or =
by other=20
means that require the users to make a conscious choice to run or =
install=20
software from the Internet if the users are supposedly so=20
distrustful?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Geo" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think you have me confused with =
someone else,=20
what claims about passport did I make?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> First off, I called =
on your lies=20
about Passport. What is the point of having any discussion =
with you=20
when you repeated post bullshit and use it to attempt to support =
some=20
claim you are trying to make?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Our discussion from =
that point=20
on, after to moved on from your initial lies, has been you =
failing to=20
support the claim that people don't trust the computer =
itself and the=20
plenty of examples that they do trust the computer and much =
more. =20
Again, if people really weren't so trusting, why do they continue =
to=20
choose to install spyware, fall for phishing scams, =
etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Geo" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
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V>"Rich"=20
<@> wrote in message <A=20
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href=3D"news:41dca3b6$1@w3.nls.net">news:41dca3b6$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
<BR>>>All=20
your examples have been problems that other people have that you =
claim<BR>imply that they distrust the computer instead of the =
people=20
behind their<BR>problems.<<<BR><BR>I'm fairly sure they =
don't=20
trust the virus writers and hackers either but<BR>this started =
out as a=20
discussion about passport and my comment was that<BR>people =
don't want=20
their computer storing passwords and credit card =
numbers<BR>because they=20
don't trust it as a secure device.<BR><BR>We seem to have come =
full=20
circle now so I'll just shut=20
=
up.<BR><BR>Geo.<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOT=
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