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Ärende: Re: Your next PC is... a phone
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From: "Rich" <@>
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If CPU was the only factor than my cell phone is more powerful that =
some IBM mainframes. I don't think you want to claim that because of = the CPU
that a phone is a replacement for a mainframe. There is a lot = more to a PC
or most computers than just the CPU.
Rich
"Ad" <Dobbin@theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com> wrote in message =
news:464d52db@w3.nls.net...
Rich wrote:
> I don't decry the phone. I very much like my smartphone. It's =
not a=20
> PC replacement and not even close. That's not to say a future one=20
> couldn't be closer. What is reported below is not the phone =
replacing=20
> the PC as much as being a portable media player. The actual article =
> describes other specialty applications not the general purpose=20
> functionality of a PC.
>
Riiigght so you do nuclear simulations?
Most smartphones are or are approaching where my old PC/my son's win2K =
pc is (PIII 500 + 256 mb of ram) at least in processor terms.
& soon they'll be quite a lot faster e.g.
http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARM_Cortex-A8.html
"The ARM CortexTM-A8 processor is the first applications processor =
based=20
on the ARMv7 architecture and is the highest performance, most=20
power-efficient processor ever developed by ARM. With the ability to=20
scale in speed from 600MHz to greater than 1GHz, the Cortex-A8 =
processor=20
can meet the requirements for power-optimized mobile devices needing=20
operation in less than 300mW; and performance-optimized consumer=20
applications requiring 2000 Dhrystone MIPS.
The Cortex-A8 processor is ARM=92s first superscalar processor =
featuring=20
technology for enhanced code density and performance, NEON=99 =
technology=20
for multimedia and signal processing, and Jazelle=AE RCT (Runtime=20
Compilation Target) technology for efficient support of ahead-of-time=20
and just-in-time compilation of Java and other bytecode languages. "
Most Smartphones come with bluetooth & bluetooth mice & keyboards are=20
growing in range while falling in price. Personally I want a foldable=20
keyboard with a trackpad.
Most are coming with a proper USB implemention such that all sorts of=20
devices could be plugged in.
Most are coming with pretty impressive storage capacities (or can be=20
expanded via increasingly capacious & cheap cards).
Most are headed towards a proper OS as the device constraints come off =
due to tech advance (e.g. the Iphone OS will be based on OSX i.e. BSD=20
unix) & Motorola et al are headed to linux.
The one thing which is missing is the problem of the display & by the=20
sound of it it's something MS is looking like addressing which is =
good.
Adam
> Rich
> =20
>=20
> "Ad" <Dobbin@theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com
> <mailto:Dobbin@theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com>> wrote in =
message
> news:464bf527$1@w3.nls.net...
> http://www.physorg.com/news98525702.html
>=20
> Ah dear me...after all this time of Rich S decrying the =
phone.....his
> masters may be "thinking different".
>=20
> "While the PDA has existed as a sort of mini-PC for years, =
Microsoft
> said it would encourage phone manufacturers to formalize the =
transition
> of the phone to a mobile PC through a research initiative called
> "Fone+"."
>=20
>=20
> " Microsoft Research chief Craig Mundie said that Microsoft has =
a
> research project called "Fone+" that would allow the phone to =
work with
> a TV as a secondary display, and one that could allow video =
stored on
> the device to be played back on the television.
>=20
> For Microsoft, the challenge is extending the PC platform into =
new
> applications and form factors. For many years, the WinHEC =
confeerence
> here has served as the underlying foundation for hardware =
initiatives
> for the Tablet PC and the more recent UMPC, both of which have
> struggled. Microsoft's penetration into the smartphone market, =
however,
> has been more successful.
>=20
> "There's no reason that if this thing were hooked up to a large =
display
> that we couldn't watch video in this environment," Mundie said. =
"
>=20
> Gosh you mean display is the problem...?
>=20
> Go on mah son sort out smart phone displays for the rest of =
us.....
>=20
>=20
> Adam
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> If CPU was the only factor =
than my=20
cell phone is more powerful that some IBM mainframes. I don't = think
you=20
want to claim that because of the CPU that a phone is a replacement for = a=20
mainframe. There is a lot more to a PC or most computers than just =
the=20
CPU.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Ad" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:Dobbin@theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com">Dobbin@theStablesC=
loseToTheAirport.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:464d52db@w3.nls.net">news:464d52db@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>Ri=
ch=20
wrote:<BR>> I don't decry the phone. I very =
much=20
like my smartphone. It's not a <BR>> PC replacement and not =
even=20
close. That's not to say a future one <BR>> couldn't be =
closer. =20
What is reported below is not the phone replacing <BR>> the PC as =
much as=20
being a portable media player. The actual article <BR>> =
describes=20
other specialty applications not the general purpose <BR>> =
functionality of=20
a PC.<BR>><BR><BR><BR>Riiigght so you do nuclear =
simulations?<BR><BR>Most=20
smartphones are or are approaching where my old PC/my son's win2K =
<BR>pc is=20
(PIII 500 + 256 mb of ram) at least in processor terms.<BR><BR>& =
soon=20
they'll be quite a lot faster e.g.<BR><BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARM_Cortex-A8.html">http://www.a=
rm.com/products/CPUs/ARM_Cortex-A8.html</A><BR><BR>"The=20
ARM CortexTM-A8 processor is the first applications processor based =
<BR>on the=20
ARMv7 architecture and is the highest performance, most =
<BR>power-efficient=20
processor ever developed by ARM. With the ability to <BR>scale in =
speed from=20
600MHz to greater than 1GHz, the Cortex-A8 processor <BR>can meet the=20
requirements for power-optimized mobile devices needing <BR>operation =
in less=20
than 300mW; and performance-optimized consumer <BR>applications =
requiring 2000=20
Dhrystone MIPS.<BR>The Cortex-A8 processor is ARM=92s first =
superscalar=20
processor featuring <BR>technology for enhanced code density and=20
performance, NEON=99 technology <BR>for multimedia and signal =
processing,=20
and Jazelle=AE RCT (Runtime <BR>Compilation Target) technology for =
efficient=20
support of ahead-of-time <BR>and just-in-time compilation of Java and =
other=20
bytecode languages. "<BR><BR><BR>Most Smartphones come with bluetooth =
&=20
bluetooth mice & keyboards are <BR>growing in range while falling =
in=20
price. Personally I want a foldable <BR>keyboard with a =
trackpad.<BR><BR>Most=20
are coming with a proper USB implemention such that all sorts of =
<BR>devices=20
could be plugged in.<BR><BR>Most are coming with pretty impressive =
storage=20
capacities (or can be <BR>expanded via increasingly capacious & =
cheap=20
cards).<BR><BR><BR>Most are headed towards a proper OS as the device=20
constraints come off <BR>due to tech advance (e.g. the Iphone OS will =
be based=20
on OSX i.e. BSD <BR>unix) & Motorola et al are headed to =
linux.<BR><BR>The=20
one thing which is missing is the problem of the display & by the=20
<BR>sound of it it's something MS is looking like addressing which is=20
good.<BR><BR>Adam<BR><BR><BR>> Rich<BR>> <BR>>=20
<BR>> "Ad" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:Dobbin@theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com">Dobbin@theStablesC=
loseToTheAirport.com</A><BR>> =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:Dobbin@theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com">mailto:Dobbin@theS=
tablesCloseToTheAirport.com</A>>>=20
wrote in message<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:464bf527$1@w3.nls.net">news:464bf527$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
> =20
<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.physorg.com/news98525702.html">http://www.physorg.com/=
news98525702.html</A><BR>>=20
<BR>> Ah dear me...after all this time of =
Rich S=20
decrying the phone.....his<BR>> masters may =
be=20
"thinking different".<BR>> <BR>> "While =
the PDA=20
has existed as a sort of mini-PC for years,=20
Microsoft<BR>> said it would encourage =
phone=20
manufacturers to formalize the =
transition<BR>> of=20
the phone to a mobile PC through a research initiative=20
called<BR>> "Fone+"."<BR>> <BR>>=20
<BR>> " Microsoft Research chief Craig =
Mundie said=20
that Microsoft has a<BR>> research project =
called=20
"Fone+" that would allow the phone to work=20
with<BR>> a TV as a secondary display, and =
one that=20
could allow video stored on<BR>> the device =
to be=20
played back on the television.<BR>> =
<BR>> For=20
Microsoft, the challenge is extending the PC platform into=20
new<BR>> applications and form factors. For =
many=20
years, the WinHEC confeerence<BR>> here has =
served=20
as the underlying foundation for hardware=20
initiatives<BR>> for the Tablet PC and the =
more=20
recent UMPC, both of which have<BR>> =
struggled.=20
Microsoft's penetration into the smartphone market,=20
however,<BR>> has been more =
successful.<BR>>=20
<BR>> "There's no reason that if this thing =
were=20
hooked up to a large display<BR>> that we =
couldn't=20
watch video in this environment," Mundie said. "<BR>>=20
<BR>> Gosh you mean display is the=20
problem...?<BR>> <BR>> Go on mah son =
sort out=20
smart phone displays for the rest of us.....<BR>> <BR>>=20
<BR>> Adam</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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