Tillbaka till svenska Fidonet
English   Information   Debug  
OS2BBS   0/787
OS2DOSBBS   0/580
OS2HW   0/42
OS2INET   0/37
OS2LAN   0/134
OS2PROG   0/36
OS2REXX   0/113
OS2USER-L   207
OS2   0/4785
OSDEBATE   0/18996
PASCAL   0/490
PERL   0/457
PHP   0/45
POINTS   0/405
POLITICS   0/29554
POL_INC   0/14731
PSION   103
R20_ADMIN   1117
R20_AMATORRADIO   0/2
R20_BEST_OF_FIDONET   13
R20_CHAT   0/893
R20_DEPP   0/3
R20_DEV   399
R20_ECHO2   1379
R20_ECHOPRES   0/35
R20_ESTAT   0/719
R20_FIDONETPROG...
...RAM.MYPOINT
  0/2
R20_FIDONETPROGRAM   0/22
R20_FIDONET   0/248
R20_FILEFIND   0/24
R20_FILEFOUND   0/22
R20_HIFI   0/3
R20_INFO2   2794
R20_INTERNET   0/12940
R20_INTRESSE   0/60
R20_INTR_KOM   0/99
R20_KANDIDAT.CHAT   42
R20_KANDIDAT   28
R20_KOM_DEV   112
R20_KONTROLL   0/13064
R20_KORSET   0/18
R20_LOKALTRAFIK   0/24
R20_MODERATOR   0/1852
R20_NC   76
R20_NET200   245
R20_NETWORK.OTH...
...ERNETS
  0/13
R20_OPERATIVSYS...
...TEM.LINUX
  0/44
R20_PROGRAMVAROR   0/1
R20_REC2NEC   534
R20_SFOSM   0/340
R20_SF   0/108
R20_SPRAK.ENGLISH   0/1
R20_SQUISH   107
R20_TEST   2
R20_WORST_OF_FIDONET   12
RAR   0/9
RA_MULTI   106
RA_UTIL   0/162
REGCON.EUR   0/2055
REGCON   0/13
SCIENCE   0/1206
SF   0/239
SHAREWARE_SUPPORT   0/5146
SHAREWRE   0/14
SIMPSONS   0/169
STATS_OLD1   0/2539.065
STATS_OLD2   0/2530
STATS_OLD3   0/2395.095
STATS_OLD4   0/1692.25
SURVIVOR   0/495
SYSOPS_CORNER   0/3
SYSOP   0/84
TAGLINES   0/112
TEAMOS2   0/4530
TECH   0/2617
TEST.444   0/105
TRAPDOOR   0/19
TREK   0/755
TUB   0/290
UFO   0/40
UNIX   0/1316
USA_EURLINK   0/102
USR_MODEMS   0/1
VATICAN   0/2740
VIETNAM_VETS   0/14
VIRUS   0/378
VIRUS_INFO   0/201
VISUAL_BASIC   0/473
WHITEHOUSE   0/5187
WIN2000   0/101
WIN32   0/30
WIN95   0/4277
WIN95_OLD1   0/70272
WINDOWS   0/1517
WWB_SYSOP   0/419
WWB_TECH   0/810
ZCC-PUBLIC   0/1
ZEC   4

 
4DOS   0/134
ABORTION   0/7
ALASKA_CHAT   0/506
ALLFIX_FILE   0/1313
ALLFIX_FILE_OLD1   0/7997
ALT_DOS   0/152
AMATEUR_RADIO   0/1039
AMIGASALE   0/14
AMIGA   0/331
AMIGA_INT   0/1
AMIGA_PROG   0/20
AMIGA_SYSOP   0/26
ANIME   0/15
ARGUS   0/924
ASCII_ART   0/340
ASIAN_LINK   0/651
ASTRONOMY   0/417
AUDIO   0/92
AUTOMOBILE_RACING   0/105
BABYLON5   0/17862
BAG   135
BATPOWER   0/361
BBBS.ENGLISH   0/382
BBSLAW   0/109
BBS_ADS   0/5290
BBS_INTERNET   0/507
BIBLE   0/3563
BINKD   0/1119
BINKLEY   0/215
BLUEWAVE   0/2173
CABLE_MODEMS   0/25
CBM   0/46
CDRECORD   0/66
CDROM   0/20
CLASSIC_COMPUTER   0/378
COMICS   0/15
CONSPRCY   0/899
COOKING   28515
COOKING_OLD1   0/24719
COOKING_OLD2   0/40862
COOKING_OLD3   0/37489
COOKING_OLD4   0/35496
COOKING_OLD5   9370
C_ECHO   0/189
C_PLUSPLUS   0/31
DIRTY_DOZEN   0/201
DOORGAMES   0/2017
DOS_INTERNET   0/196
duplikat   6000
ECHOLIST   0/18295
EC_SUPPORT   0/318
ELECTRONICS   0/359
ELEKTRONIK.GER   1534
ENET.LINGUISTIC   0/13
ENET.POLITICS   0/4
ENET.SOFT   0/11701
ENET.SYSOP   33806
ENET.TALKS   0/32
ENGLISH_TUTOR   0/2000
EVOLUTION   0/1335
FDECHO   0/217
FDN_ANNOUNCE   0/7068
FIDONEWS   23541
FIDONEWS_OLD1   0/49742
FIDONEWS_OLD2   0/35949
FIDONEWS_OLD3   0/30874
FIDONEWS_OLD4   0/37224
FIDO_SYSOP   12847
FIDO_UTIL   0/180
FILEFIND   0/209
FILEGATE   0/212
FILM   0/18
FNEWS_PUBLISH   4193
FN_SYSOP   41525
FN_SYSOP_OLD1   71952
FTP_FIDO   0/2
FTSC_PUBLIC   0/13585
FUNNY   0/4886
GENEALOGY.EUR   0/71
GET_INFO   105
GOLDED   0/408
HAM   0/16053
HOLYSMOKE   0/6791
HOT_SITES   0/1
HTMLEDIT   0/71
HUB203   466
HUB_100   264
HUB_400   39
HUMOR   0/29
IC   0/2851
INTERNET   0/424
INTERUSER   0/3
IP_CONNECT   719
JAMNNTPD   0/233
JAMTLAND   0/47
KATTY_KORNER   0/41
LAN   0/16
LINUX-USER   0/19
LINUXHELP   0/1155
LINUX   0/22012
LINUX_BBS   0/957
mail   18.68
mail_fore_ok   249
MENSA   0/341
MODERATOR   0/102
MONTE   0/992
MOSCOW_OKLAHOMA   0/1245
MUFFIN   0/783
MUSIC   0/321
N203_STAT   900
N203_SYSCHAT   313
NET203   321
NET204   69
NET_DEV   0/10
NORD.ADMIN   0/101
NORD.CHAT   0/2572
NORD.FIDONET   189
NORD.HARDWARE   0/28
NORD.KULTUR   0/114
NORD.PROG   0/32
NORD.SOFTWARE   0/88
NORD.TEKNIK   0/58
NORD   0/453
OCCULT_CHAT   0/93
Möte OSDEBATE, 18996 texter
 lista första sista föregående nästa
Text 18272, 80 rader
Skriven 2007-05-29 21:05:48 av Rich Gauszka (1:379/45)
Ärende: Intuit Quickbooks forcing subscription
==============================================
From: "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@dontspamhotmail.com>

EID paranoia or valid concern?

http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/00/03/20/000320opfoster.html

Many QuickBooks 2000 customers have been upset that they are now required to
subscribe to Intuit's $72 per year Basic Payroll service if they want to use
the program's payroll calculation feature to figure deductions. Intuit's
revised policy concerns them on several counts. Those upgrading from previous
versions often could not tell the policy had changed from the somewhat cryptic
notice on the package, and many said they might have chosen not to upgrade had
they realized they would have to pay extra for the payroll feature. Of even
greater concern is the amount of personal information Intuit requires from
payroll subscribers and the requirement that they download new tax tables at
least every 45 days.

"The latest version of QuickBooks Pro [2000] will not let you use the payroll
tax table calculation feature until you sign up online for a year's
subscription to [Intuit's] payroll service, at $72 per year," wrote one reader.
"Not only that, but you must log on at least every 45 days and update it or it
will cease to work. In addition, you have to give [Intuit] (among other
information) your Employer Identification Number ... [previously] no private
information was required."

For some time Intuit has charged a subscription fee to those who wanted to
receive tax table updates, but many chose to use the original tax tables and
then calculate their own changes. As we noted last year, Intuit made this
tactic more difficult with QuickBooks 99, zeroing out all manual entries of
deductions after each payroll if you had not downloaded the new tax tables.
Then, as now, Intuit's justification for forcing non-subscribers to enter or
re-enter deductions manually for each payroll check they write has been to
ensure that customers stay in compliance with ever-changing federal and state
payroll tax regulations, citing statistics that 30 percent of small businesses
are penalized each year for inaccurate payroll filings.

This paternal concern for its customers might have more credibility if Intuit
were willing to take responsibility for inaccurate payroll filings by a Basic
Payroll subscriber due to an error in Intuit's tax table updates. But it's no
surprise that Intuit does not guarantee the accuracy of its tax table updates.

"The tax tables are accurate to the best of our knowledge, but we don't
guarantee that for users of the Basic Payroll service," says Jennifer Martin,
marketing manager of QuickBooks payroll services. "The Basic Payroll user is
still responsible for checking that information." Intuit will pay penalties for
inaccurate filings on its Deluxe Payroll service, according to Martin, as there
Intuit actually functions directly as a payroll service for the customer.

One has to suspect that Intuit's true motivation may have less to do with
making sure customers are in compliance and more to do with maximizing Intuit's
earnings. Even customers who willingly subscribed to the service have had their
suspicions raised by the personal information Intuit requires them to provide.
In particular, some readers were puzzled as to why Intuit requires their EID
(Employer Identification Number).

Accountants who use QuickBooks to do payroll for more than one client had real
concerns about the EID requirement. As the password a user receives to access
the tax table updates is tied to the EID, this means accountants would have to
purchase a separate subscription for each of their clients. By the time I spoke
to Intuit officials, however, they had already heard enough protests from such
customers that they had dropped the separate subscription fee for multiple
clients.

Although accountants don't have to pay for each subscription, they are still
required to provide the EID for each client. This leaves some feeling uneasy,
partly because they feel Intuit's Deluxe Payroll service is targeted at small
businesses of the same type as the accountants' clients, so how can they be
sure they aren't handing over their client list to a competitor? Given Intuit's
predilection to use every marketing angle it can, that might not be total
paranoia. But Martin and other Intuit officials insist Intuit is using EID
numbers only to provide a unique identifier for each account, and they stated
categorically that Intuit will not use the EID numbers for marketing.

Although we can therefore have a reasonable hope that Intuit won't try to steal
its customers' clients, one never knows what scheme its marketing troops might
come up with next. When it comes to creative new ways to tap its customers'
wallets, Intuit is an innovator with few, if any, peers.

--- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
 * Origin: Barktopia BBS Site http://HarborWebs.com:8081 (1:379/45)