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Skriven 2005-01-11 09:23:22 av Thees Peereboom (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 1803 av Mike '/m' (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Microsoft to back off Passport Service
==================================================
From: "Thees Peereboom" <theesp@barkto.com>

Mike,

That's easy - DoubleClick does not represent a potential competitor, with MSFT
you never know.

- Thees Peereboom

On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:11:16 -0500, Mike '/m' <mike@barkto.com> wrote:

>
>
> An interesting facet of all this, doubleclick does not seem to have
> trouble
> being accepted by various websites.  Yet those websites are very dubious
> of
> Passport.  I have to wonder why websites are more willing to partner with
> doubleclick than Microsoft?  Is the perception that Microsoft is *that*
> untrustworthy that few wanted to buy into their Passport service?
>
> That would explain the flood of Microsoft corp-gen* ads that I've been
> seeing
> on TV.
>
>  /m
>
>
> *) corp-gen -  ad-industry-speak for "corporate general" advertising.
> Ads
> that are more focused on bettering the image of a corporation, than in
> selling
> any  product.  Walmart is now embarking on a corp-gen ad campaign to
> polish up
> its tarnished image.
>
>
>
> On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:06:41 -0500, "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote:
>
>> Well I'm one of the ones who refused to use passport, in fact it's one
>> of the reasons I dropped out of all windows beta testing (because they
>> required passport). My reasoning was two fold. First, if I wanted the
>> computer to remember my login information for a site, as you mentioned,
>> I had the IE password manager which I would use for unimportant sites
>> like the NYT and such but any site where I buy stuff I would always
>> tell it to NOT remember me.
>>
>> Second, a single multiple site signin/tracking service I personally
>> view as too invasive.
>>
>> So, what was it, the users not using passport or sites not using
>> passport that has reduced Microsoft's interest in persuing passport
>> with the vigor they once had for it?
>>
>> Geo.
>>  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:41d6dacc@w3.nls.net...
>>     I disagree.  First, Passport is not that.  The person at the
>> keyboard must still confirm who he is.
>>
>>     Second, if you look at some of the folks, who likely don't use
>> Passport, posting to the recent slashdot item on Passport, say that
>> they perceived it as similar to their running a password manager app on
>> the client.  This folks obviously do want to automate the process.
>> Third, IE and other browsers contain password managers and people use
>> them.  Lastly, you have people that use the same user name and password
>> wherever they can and keep it all written on post-its by the computer.
>> They are just trying to make it easier.
>>
>>     In other words, one, people clearly do want to automate this.  Two,
>> Passport is not the same.  It provides single sign-in where you have
>> one identity (per passport) at multiple sites not multiple identities,
>> one per site.
>>
>>  Rich
>>
>>    "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:41d67050@w3.nls.net...
>>    Glad to see you are still around Rich, I was beginning to miss your
>> comments. My point was that the people who use the internet the most
>> aren't so stupid that they want a service to replace or automate the
>> process of confirming the person at the keyboard is the account holder.
>>
>>    Geo.
>>      "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:41d5f1fb@w3.nls.net..
>>         Neither of these applies to Passport so if you are going to
>> make junk up you could make up worse.
>>
>>      Rich
>>
>>        "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message
>> news:41d496f9@w3.nls.net...
>>        "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message
>>        news:u9u8t0t30rsmkkkd5oc12v947d72a0vu32@4ax.com...
>>
>>        > It boiled down to too few people trusting Microsoft with their
>> personal
>>        data.
>>
>>        It boiled down to too few people trusting their computer with
>> their credit
>>        card number. Sort of like what's the point of a password if the
>> computer is
>>        going to enter it for you..
>>
>>        Geo.
>

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