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Kommentar till text 18866 av Geo. (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Up button
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From: "Rich" <@>
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Lovely reasoning which if followed would mean that nothing should =
ever change again. Good luck with that.
As for folks that can tell you the location currently viewed so you =
know they are three levels too deep and can count to three to click = three
times but can't click on the third parent, using the backspace is = a fine
idea.
Rich
"Geo." <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:4677b020$1@w3.nls.net...
and how does the new UI perform a quick 3 clicks on the up arrow? You =
are on
the phone trying to tell someone who is 3 levels too deep to go up =
three
levels and you can't read the directory names, go ahead write up a =
step by
step that works for everyone like "click the up arrow 3 times". Oh =
wait, you
can't do that because the words change depending on where you are..
Sometimes consistency is a good thing. Especially if you do tech =
support. So
now instead of click the up arrow every procedure has to be changed to =
hit
the back space key and explain which is the backspace and which is the =
back
arrow keys..
Imagine what a colossal pain it would be to write a procedure like =
this if
the backspace key didn't work in previous versions, you would need a
different procedure for each version of windows.
Microsoft needs to realize one of the strengths of windows is that =
everyone
knows how to use it so stop changing how to use it and instead build =
on this
huge advantage.
Geo.
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From: "Rich" <@>
Newsgroups: homeless.barktopia.technoids
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: Up button
Horrible analogy.
The new UI performs an up one level in a single mouse click just =
like the
old fixed purpose button. The new UI performs an up two levels in a =
single
mouse click instead of two. The new UI performs an up three levels in =
a
single mouse click instead of three.
Rich
"Geo." <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:46774ccb$1@w3.nls.net...
We removed the gas and brake pedals in your car, you just push back =
on the
seat to brake and pull on the steering wheel to accelerate, we find =
this
much more intuitive... and since pulling on the wheel increases with
acceleration it's actually more efficient.
The up arrow is probably one of the most uses buttons. It was a =
mistake to
remove it and not even leave an option to turn it back on.
Geo. (ever few years I have to forget everything I know about =
computers
and
start from scratch, why?)
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:46773c52$1@w3.nls.net...
I don't get this. The up one level button was removed because =
the
address bar now has the ability to go up any level by clicking on =
the name
of any component in the hierarchy. It also has the ability to go to =
any
child or sibling of any component by clicking on the down arrow =
before or
after components in the heirarchy.
Rich
"Frank Haber" <frhaber@N0SPMrcn.com> wrote in message
news:467693d0$1@w3.nls.net...
>there is no place to see or modify a tag so what's the point of =
showing
this
>column?
I have very limited experience with Vista Explorer, but I concur
mightily
about the loss of the up button in the file-pick dialogue.
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how does the new UI perform a quick 3 clicks on the up arrow? You are=20
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step by<BR>step that works for everyone like "click the up arrow 3 =
times". Oh=20
wait, you<BR>can't do that because the words change depending on where =
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are..<BR><BR>Sometimes consistency is a good thing. Especially if you =
do tech=20
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to be=20
changed to hit<BR>the back space key and explain which is the =
backspace and=20
which is the back<BR>arrow keys..<BR><BR>Imagine what a colossal pain =
it would=20
be to write a procedure like this if<BR>the backspace key didn't work =
in=20
previous versions, you would need a<BR>different procedure for each =
version of=20
windows.<BR><BR>Microsoft needs to realize one of the strengths of =
windows is=20
that everyone<BR>knows how to use it so stop changing how to use it =
and=20
instead build on this<BR>huge advantage.<BR><BR>Geo.<BR><BR>----- =
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Message ----- <BR>From: "Rich" <@><BR>Newsgroups:=20
homeless.barktopia.technoids<BR>Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:34=20
AM<BR>Subject: Re: Up button<BR><BR><BR> Horrible=20
analogy.<BR><BR> The new UI performs an up one level in a =
single=20
mouse click just like the<BR>old fixed purpose button. The new =
UI=20
performs an up two levels in a single<BR>mouse click instead of =
two. The=20
new UI performs an up three levels in a<BR>single mouse click instead =
of=20
three.<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR> "Geo." <<A =
title=3Dmailto:georger@nls.net=20
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
title=3Dnews:46774ccb$1@w3.nls.net=20
=
href=3D"news:46774ccb$1@w3.nls.net">news:46774ccb$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
We removed the gas and brake pedals in your car, you just push back on =
the<BR> seat to brake and pull on the steering wheel to =
accelerate, we=20
find this<BR> much more intuitive... and since pulling on the =
wheel=20
increases with<BR> acceleration it's actually more=20
efficient.<BR><BR> The up arrow is probably one of the most uses =
buttons. It was a mistake to<BR> remove it and not even leave an =
option=20
to turn it back on.<BR><BR> Geo. (ever few years I have to =
forget=20
everything I know about computers<BR>and<BR> start from scratch, =
why?)<BR><BR> "Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
title=3Dnews:46773c52$1@w3.nls.net=20
=
href=3D"news:46773c52$1@w3.nls.net">news:46773c52$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
I don't get this. The up one level button was removed because=20
the<BR> address bar now has the ability to go up any level by =
clicking=20
on the name<BR> of any component in the hierarchy. It also =
has the=20
ability to go to any<BR> child or sibling of any component by =
clicking=20
on the down arrow before or<BR> after components in the=20
heirarchy.<BR><BR> Rich<BR><BR> "Frank Haber" =
<<A=20
title=3Dmailto:frhaber@N0SPMrcn.com=20
href=3D"mailto:frhaber@N0SPMrcn.com">frhaber@N0SPMrcn.com</A>> =
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=20
>there is no place to see or modify a tag so what's the point of=20
showing<BR> this<BR> =20
>column?<BR><BR> I have very limited experience =
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the loss=20
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