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Skriven 2005-01-15 23:51:14 av Geo (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 1948 av Rich Gauszka (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: New FBI computer system a bust
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From: "Geo" <georger@nls.net>

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That sounds like a much more complicated project than the FBI one.

Geo.
  "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:41e89464$1@w3.nls.net...

  Well the City of Detroit spent $130 million ( probably much more as =
DRMS money amounts were buried in quite a few departmental budgets ) on = an
accounting system. It was called DRMS ( Dreams ) we referred to it as =
nightmare. They never implemented the HR/payroll portion and eventually = took
out the custom code that they insisted were crucial after they = figured out it
would be impossible to update to future supported levels = of the Oracle
financials. Thankfully I was supporting the 'antiquated' = UNISYS ClearPath
architecture at the time and was able to view the = fiasco from a distance


  http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdbln/is_200208/ai_ziff29846

  In 1997, the City of Detroit announced a plan to revamp its financial =
software with a three-year, $47.9 million project called the Detroit = Resource
Management System, or DRMS, commonly referred to as Dreams. It = should have
been called "nightmares."  The initial plan called for the = integration of 43
departments and 22 computer systems onto a single = system that would run
financial, human resources, and payroll software = from Oracle Corp. Five years
and more than $130 million later, DRMS has = delivered only the financial
applications, and the city has not begun to = implement the HR and payroll
applications that were supposed to be the = project's big payoff.=20

  Turf wars prevented useful feedback and criticism from reaching the =
right parties, and training costs for city workers were grievously =
underestimated. Meanwhile, lead integrator IBM Global Services (in the = midst
of the Y2K crunch and overheated dot-com economy) was having = trouble staffing
the project with competent workers, and Oracle's = software=97the same used by
corporations=97couldn't handle all of the = arcana of municipal finance.=20

  "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:41e88c3b@w3.nls.net...
    When I designed Fans I got to work on a Federal Bid for welding fume =
exhausters for ships. The crates they wanted them packed in costs 20% = more
than the fan it was holding.

    I still want to see a $170 million dollar computer project.


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That sounds like a much more =
complicated project=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Well the City of Detroit spent $130 million ( =
probably much=20
  more as DRMS money amounts were buried in quite a few departmental =
budgets=20
  )&nbsp;on an accounting system. It was called DRMS ( Dreams ) we =
referred to=20
  it as nightmare. They never implemented the HR/payroll portion and =
eventually=20
  took out the custom code that they insisted were crucial after they =
figured=20
  out it would be impossible to update to future supported levels of the =
Oracle=20
  financials. Thankfully I was supporting the 'antiquated' UNISYS =
ClearPath=20
  architecture at the time and was able to view the fiasco from a=20
  distance</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdbln/is_200208/ai_ziff=
29846">http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdbln/is_200208/ai_ziff2=
9846</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>In 1997, the City of Detroit announced a plan to =
revamp its=20
  financial software with a three-year, $47.9 million project called the =
Detroit=20
  Resource Management System, or DRMS, commonly referred to as Dreams. =
It should=20
  have been called "nightmares."&nbsp; The initial plan called for the=20
  integration of 43 departments and 22 computer systems onto a single =
system=20
  that would run financial, human resources, and payroll software from =
Oracle=20
  Corp. Five years and more than $130 million later, DRMS has delivered =
only the=20
  financial applications, and the city has not begun to implement the HR =
and=20
  payroll applications that were supposed to be the project's big =
payoff.=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Turf wars prevented useful feedback and criticism =
from=20
  reaching the right parties, and training costs for city workers were=20
  grievously underestimated. Meanwhile, lead integrator IBM Global =
Services (in=20
  the midst of the Y2K crunch and overheated dot-com economy) was having =
trouble=20
  staffing the project with competent workers, and Oracle's =
software=97the same=20
  used by corporations=97couldn't handle all of the arcana of municipal =
finance.=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; wrote=20
  in message <A=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When I designed Fans I got to work =
on a Federal=20
    Bid for welding fume exhausters for ships. The crates they wanted =
them=20
    packed in costs 20% more than the fan it was holding.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I still want to see a $170 million =
dollar=20
    computer project.</FONT></DIV>
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