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Skriven 2005-01-16 12:37:06 av Ellen K. (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 1985 av Rich Gauszka (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: New FBI computer system a bust
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From: Ellen K. <72322.enno.esspeayem.1016@compuserve.com>

And inadequate analysis.

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:09:30 -0500, "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote
in message <41e9f71b@w3.nls.net>:

>The similarity probably is that either system had unrealistic goals, an
enormous budget, inadequate/bad management and contractual services that were
quite happy to take the money.
>
>"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:41e9f345@w3.nls.net...
>  That sounds like a much more complicated project than the FBI one.
>
>  Geo.
>    "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:41e89464$1@w3.nls.net...
>
>    Well the City of Detroit spent $130 million ( probably much more as DRMS
money amounts were buried in quite a few departmental budgets ) on an
accounting system. It was called DRMS ( Dreams ) we referred to it as
nightmare. They never implemented the HR/payroll portion and eventually took
out the custom code that they insisted were crucial after they figured out it
would be impossible to update to future supported levels of the Oracle
financials. Thankfully I was supporting the 'antiquated' UNISYS ClearPath
architecture at the time and was able to view the fiasco from a distance
>
>
>    http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdbln/is_200208/ai_ziff29846
>
>    In 1997, the City of Detroit announced a plan to revamp its financial
software with a three-year, $47.9 million project called the Detroit Resource
Management System, or DRMS, commonly referred to as Dreams. It should have been
called "nightmares."  The initial plan called for the integration of 43
departments and 22 computer systems onto a single system that would run
financial, human resources, and payroll software from Oracle Corp. Five years
and more than $130 million later, DRMS has delivered only the financial
applications, and the city has not begun to implement the HR and payroll
applications that were supposed to be the project's big payoff.
>
>    Turf wars prevented useful feedback and criticism from reaching the right
parties, and training costs for city workers were grievously underestimated.
Meanwhile, lead integrator IBM Global Services (in the midst of the Y2K crunch
and overheated dot-com economy) was having trouble staffing the project with
competent workers, and Oracle's software—the same used by corporations—couldn't
handle all of the arcana of municipal finance.
>
>    "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:41e88c3b@w3.nls.net...
>      When I designed Fans I got to work on a Federal Bid for welding fume
exhausters for ships. The crates they wanted them packed in costs 20% more than
the fan it was holding.
>
>      I still want to see a $170 million dollar computer project.

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