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Skriven 2005-01-20 18:38:30 av Geo (1:379/45)
Kommentar till text 2098 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Do we protect users from their own stupidity?
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From: "Geo" <georger@nls.net>
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Yes, pretty much any time you have an email issue you need to solve, you = have
to be able to look at the raw message in it's entirety or be able = to
cut/paste it into another email so you can forward it to someone so = they can
see it in it's original form.
The way outlook and outlook express "forward" feature works it is = virtually
useless to forward an email to tech support because all the = important parts
are either removed or modified. ISP techs and = postmasters walk people thru
this copying the raw email to a new email = procedure all the time.
As an end user you probably wouldn't need it except if you were a geek = but
for support purposes it's quite common.
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:41ef296e$1@w3.nls.net...
Outlook is not limited to RFC822 format nor is this the native =
format. What you describe is RFC822 specific and assumes that the = RFC822
format is the storage format.
Do you really view the headers and the encoded body parts as =
something you view for the same reasons?
Rich
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:41ef23a8$1@w3.nls.net...
I like the outlook express view source feature better than that. It =
allows me to see the headers and the source of the message all in one = window
and I can get to that window without ever opening the email. = Really wish I
could do that in Outlook. (I'm running Outlook 2000 but it = doesn't sound like
the current version is much improved wrt this = feature)
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:41ef13a2$1@w3.nls.net...
The headers, all headers for both the message and all the MIME =
parts.
Rich
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:41eef749$2@w3.nls.net...
does that show you just the headers or is it like OE view source =
where it shows the whole raw email all in one screen?
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:41edbbb8@w3.nls.net...
Full headers, yes. In the options dialog.
Rich
"Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:41eda613@w3.nls.net...
In the current version of Outlook, is there a way to view =
the source for an email without opening the email first like you can do = in
Outlook express?=20
Geo.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes, pretty much any time you have an =
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someone so they can see it in it's original form.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The way outlook and outlook express =
"forward"=20
feature works it is virtually useless to forward an email to tech = support=20
because all the important parts are either removed or modified. ISP = techs
and=20
postmasters walk people thru this copying the raw email to a new email =
procedure=20
all the time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As an end user you probably wouldn't =
need it except=20
if you were a geek but for support purposes it's quite = common.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Outlook is not limited =
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format nor is this the native format. What you describe is =
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specific and assumes that the RFC822 format is the storage=20
format.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Do you really view the =
headers and=20
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reasons?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I like the outlook express view =
source feature=20
better than that. It allows me to see the headers and the source of =
the=20
message all in one window and I can get to that window without ever =
opening=20
the email. Really wish I could do that in Outlook. (I'm running =
Outlook 2000=20
but it doesn't sound like the current version is much improved wrt =
this=20
feature)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> The headers, all =
headers for=20
both the message and all the MIME parts.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>does that show you just the =
headers or is=20
it like OE view source where it shows the whole raw email all in =
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screen?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Full headers, =
yes. In=20
the options dialog.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In the current version of =
Outlook, is=20
there a way to view the source for an email without opening =
the=20
email first like you can do in Outlook express? =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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