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Text 2471, 184 rader
Skriven 2005-02-10 21:18:58 av Rich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 2466 av Geo (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: MS and Macrovision join forces
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   The goal was clear.  Today macrovision protected content is off =
limits.  This content is restricted today.  This agreement makes it =
available.

   Is there free software that supports macrovision encoded content?  =
Legally?

   BTW, your paranoia is showing again.

Rich

  "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:420c2b02$1@w3.nls.net...
  You're right my apologies, my clipping was from the reg article. but I =
don't see how it differs from the macrovision announcement in it's = subject
matter. It's clear from either that the goal of the BF = supporters is not to
restrict digitally perfect recordings, it's to = restrict the same vhs quality
recordings we've been making since they = lost the last round of court fights
over this. They want to eliminate = the analog path.

  Microsoft is now working to make analog recordings restricted by the =
broadcast flag which the BF was never supposed to affect. The BF is a =
government attempt to get content moved to HD so they can reclaim the SD =
spectrum, it doesn't exist in the SD world because the content is = already
available there so there is no need. Of course that's now how = the
entertainment overseers see it, they believe it's their property and = that
recording off the air programming is theft even though the courts = have said
otherwise.

  You don't get it Rich, when people find out the expensive windows =
software they use can't even do what a free OS can do they are going to = leave
the platform in droves. What do you think it was that killed the = apple ][
platform and moved so many people to the PC world, you think it = was IBM's
reputation that moved the gamers and home users years before = the software
library caught up with what was available on the ][?

  The ][ had copy protection being used in lots of the most popular =
software packages, the PC didn't. There were no nibble counts, no track =
arching, no shuffle tracks, none of that nonsense on the PC. You had a = disk
you could make a copy of it.

  People will use the system that works best for them, that means the =
system that allowed them to do what they want to do. If they want to = record
the superbowl and media center won't but some distro of linux = will, guess
what's gonna happen? The fact that it doesn't require a = hardware change is
going to make it possible for this to happen rather = faster than it did with
the ][.

  Geo.
    "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:420c133f@w3.nls.net...
       I provided a press release to Macrovision's press release =
earlier.  You obviously never read it.  Pay attention.

    Rich


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; The goal was clear.&nbsp; =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Is there free software =
that supports=20
macrovision encoded content?&nbsp; Legally?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; BTW, your paranoia is =
showing=20
again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; wrote=20
  in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:420c2b02$1@w3.nls.net">news:420c2b02$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You're right my apologies, my =
clipping was from=20
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  announcement in it's subject matter. It's clear from either that the =
goal of=20
  the BF supporters is not to restrict digitally perfect recordings, =
it's to=20
  restrict the same vhs quality recordings we've been making since they =
lost the=20
  last round of court fights over this. They want to eliminate the =
analog=20
  path.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Microsoft is now working to make =
analog=20
  recordings restricted by the broadcast flag which the BF was never =
supposed to=20
  affect. The BF is a government attempt to get content moved to HD so =
they can=20
  reclaim the SD spectrum, it doesn't exist in the SD world because the =
content=20
  is already available there so there is no need. Of course that's now =
how the=20
  entertainment overseers see it, they believe it's their property and =
that=20
  recording off the air programming is theft even though the courts have =
said=20
  otherwise.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You don't get it Rich, when people =
find out the=20
  expensive windows software they use can't even do what a free OS can =
do they=20
  are going to leave the platform in droves. What&nbsp;do you think it =
was that=20
  killed the apple ][ platform and moved so many people to the PC world, =
you=20
  think it was IBM's reputation that moved the gamers and home users =
years=20
  before the software library caught up with what was available on the=20
  ][?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The ][ had copy protection being used =
in lots of=20
  the most popular software packages, the PC didn't. There were no =
nibble=20
  counts, no track arching, no shuffle tracks, none of that nonsense on =
the PC.=20
  You had a disk you could make a copy of it.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>People will use the system that works =
best for=20
  them, that means the system that allowed them to do what they want to =
do. If=20
  they want to record the superbowl and media center won't=20
  but&nbsp;some&nbsp;distro of linux&nbsp;will, guess what's gonna =
happen? The=20
  fact that it doesn't require a hardware change is going to make it =
possible=20
  for this to happen rather faster than it did with the ][.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
    =
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I provided a press =
release to=20
    Macrovision's press release earlier.&nbsp; You obviously never read=20
    it.&nbsp; Pay attention.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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