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Skriven 2005-03-09 23:38:04 av Ellen K (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 2962 av Mike '/m' (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Microsoft doesn't know how to ship software
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But is this application-based, or user-based?

> From: Mike '/m' <mike@barkto.com>
> There's more to it than just a file.  There is actually a conversation that
> occurs between the Java Web Start client and the Java Web Start server.   If
> the client is blocked from the server, then the install does not run.
> /m
> On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 12:06:46 -0800, Ellen K.
> <72322.enno.esspeayem.1016@compuserve.com> wrote:
>> Can the file be copied and pasted from one machine to another?
>> Emailed?
>> 
>> On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 08:11:03 -0500, Mike '/m' <mike@barkto.com> wrote in
>> message <c20m21dos2bba7qd3rr6t1ogj63cb5e2qa@4ax.com>:
>> 
>>> 
>>>That depends upon the Windows policy on the computer, as set by the admin of
>>> the computer.
>>> 
>>>At work we use Java Web Start to manage the installs of the Java programs on
>>> the clients.  The IT department has allowed the users enough privilege to
>>>install the Java programs.  Since Java Web Start is web-server based, we use
>>> the very flexible authentication and authorization capabilities of the web
>>>server to determine who is allowed to download what program.  For example, w
>>> can say that one program can only be downloaded to a certain IP address, or
>>> that the user can download it on any PC provided the user authenticates
>>> himself or herself properly, etc.
>>> 
>>> /m
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 20:09:01 -0800, Ellen K.
>>> <72322.enno.esspeayem.1016@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> So the user can just copy a jar to their computer and run it.  No
>>>> security provided by, for example, having to be an admin to install an
>>>> executable.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 18:08:24 +0000, Adam Flinton
>>>> <adam@NOSPAM_softfab.com> wrote in message <4229f558$1@w3.nls.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Ellen K. wrote:
>>>>>> And who installs the jar?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Who installs a word doc? It's simply a file.
>>>>> 
>>>>>When you create a word doc & send it to someone, are they "installing" it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Adam
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 23:49:08 +0000, Adam Flinton
>>>>>> <adam@NOSPAM_softfab.com> wrote in message <4228f3a9$1@w3.nls.net>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gregg N wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mike '/m' wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If you read the blog, the blogger explains the problems with this
>>>>>>>>> approach, i.e., now my application  and I are responsible for
>>>>>>>>> updating the Windows OS on my customers' PCs.  Probably requiring
>>>>>>>>> admin-level access to the box.   That has just added a huge layer to
>>>>>>>>> my install process.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Applications generally require administrative access to install them
> anyway,
>>>>>>>> as they should.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gregg
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hah.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's one of the beauties of java...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Once the JVM in on board...then you just need a jar & a command/bat
>>>>>>> file.............. <G>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 

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