Text 4246, 133 rader
Skriven 2005-05-20 22:08:16 av Mike '/m' (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 4245 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Music players and phones
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From: Mike '/m' <mike@barkto.com>

>   Keep spinning if that is what you need to live with yourself.

I live with myself just fine Rich.  I find no need to let computers affect my
living situation.  But I have to wonder why you are projecting?


>   Do you really think the itunes store would sell the same if apple did not
lock in ipod users so that this was the only store they can use?

I voice no opinion on the iTunes store.  I merely say that Apple's focus is on
iTunes and not necessarily iPod.   iPod is the means, iTunes is
the end.  And Microsoft is the also-ran, perhaps not even that. Probably more
of "too late to the party".

Whenever Microsoft feels the need to trot out Mr. Gates to expound upon some
"new direction", I know that Microsft has found themelves behind the market
leader and have belatedly realized that they need to try to catch up.



>> If users are not locked in, why would they pick the itunes store?

Coming from a Microsoft employee, that is a very interesting comment.

I mean, if the users were not locked into Windows, would they have chosen IE
over Netscape?  It seems that Microsoft execs' emails entered as evidence in
the anti-trist trials have stated that Microsoft needed to leverage the Windows
monopoly in order to make IE the defacto browser "of choice".

If the users were not locked in, would they choose WIndows Media in the
percentages that they currently do?

 /m<probably not...>



On Fri, 20 May 2005 18:56:30 -0700, "Rich" <@> wrote:

>   Keep spinning if that is what you need to live with yourself.
>
>   Do you really think the itunes store would sell the same if apple did not
lock in ipod users so that this was the only store they can use?
>
>   If users are not locked in, why would they pick the itunes store?
>
>Rich
>
>  "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message
news:s93t81dqsvf1bvef5vjpukf6n5ukvof7dp@4ax.com...
>
>  It must really suck for your employer to be the loser in the online
>  music race, eh Rich?
>
>  Despite what you are trying to spin me as saying, I am actually saying
>  that Apple is betting on iTunes (an/or its video successor), not iPod.
>  I say no more or no less.  Despite what you try to spin.
>
>  Give those rotator cuffs a rest for a change, will ya?
>
>   /m
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Fri, 20 May 2005 17:15:01 -0700, "Rich" <@> wrote:
>
>  >   If you weren't blinded by your agenda, mike, you could see the obvious
and how silly you sound.
>  >
>  >   Why will phones win out, for the same reason phones are winning over
many PDA users?  Why carry two devices when you can carry one?
>  >
>  >   Apple will follow Microsoft and I believe real in getting their software
onto phones.  There is a difference from the ipod.  Unless apple restricts
their OEM licensees from offering their users multiple choices, the phone
manufacturers and carriers have no reason to lock in their customers to the
itunes store like apple does.
>  >
>  >Rich
>  >
>  >  "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message
news:55ns81lbitvndvtrbj4407ueh8f7cbm5bo@4ax.com...
>  >
>  >  It's not iPod that Apple is betting on, but iTunes (and its video
>  >  follow-up).  Apple is already putting iPod software on cell phones to
>  >  allow them to access iTunes.
>  >
>  >  Gates' comment was more of a specious smokescreen than anything else.
>  >  Apple caught him napping in this space, and now he has to look like he
>  >  was out in front all along.
>  >
>  >   /m
>  >
>  >
>  >  On Fri, 20 May 2005 14:01:23 +0100, Adam <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes>
>  >  wrote:
>  >
>  >  >Randy wrote:
>  >  >
>  >  >> I just 1 GB on my phone via miniSD-and I want MORE....
>  >  >>
>  >  >> 500+ of AAC-encoded songs-sweet!
>  >  >>
>  >  >
>  >  >Ditto. I agree with Gates that the Ipod won't last & that the phones
>  >  >will eat it's lunch. I have a nokia 6230 which I got coz it has an MP3
>  >  >player & an fm radio....
>  >  >
>  >  >A mondo bizarro bit is that if you are listening to the radio or the mp3
>  >  >player & someone calls you get the selected ringing tones....so if like
>  >  >me you often set your phone to silent for meetings etc & then "forget"
>  >  >to re-enable the ringer....then you are left wondering what's going on
>  >  >coz the music/radio just suddenly goes....silent....
>  >  >
>  >  ><G>
>  >  >
>  >  >I had a look at the smart phones (Pocket pc, symbian etc) & was very
>  >  >impressed but @ the end of the day...I just wanted music + radio & a
>  >  >nice neat (small) phone.
>  >  >
>  >  >I like the way most of them now try wifi first for any net related
things.
>  >  >
>  >  >I reckon we're 2-3 years out from most people's "personal" computer
>  >  >being the smartphone in their pocket.
>  >  >
>  >  >Adam

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