Text 4416, 207 rader
Skriven 2005-05-25 08:47:44 av Rich (1:379/45)
Kommentar till text 4410 av Adam (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Music players and phones
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From: "Rich" <@>
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Blah blah blah. I realize you are trying to change the topic still =
to throw digs at Microsoft. Even after this immature behavior you still = fail
to say any more than you are unable to perceive size differences. = Bluetooth
does not make external keyboards small nor does it change the = display size.
That you can find a Windows Mobile based PDA phone with a = keyboard of a bulky
nokia device I've never seen used with a keypad = doesn't change the size.
Rich
"Adam" <mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes> wrote in message =
news:429440f4$1@w3.nls.net...
Rich wrote:
> Nokia used to have more leverage than they do not.
Yes & no. It's mostly down to fashions & they stuck with the candybar=20
instead of producing some flipdowns. Their new designs though are=20
pulling n the slack & meanwhle other smaller vendors (e.g. siemans) =
may=20
well be pulling out.
> If they haven't=20
> already they will get over it.
As will MS. Which is the point. MS is used to being the 90%+ dominant =
&=20
thus bing able to dictate rather than being dictated to.
> I think they have responded which is why=20
> they started to try to share with symbian. When they dominated they =
did=20
> not share.
>
Nah it's more to do with fashion. No flipdowns where moto & Samsung =
did=20
them & the fashion went against candybars.
> As for keyboards and the like for phones, I do believe I am =
typical. =20
> I know hardly anyone that has a keyboard for their phone or even =
PDA.
A) Wrt bluetooth I know a few & the number is growng
B) WRT the machines then it must be a US/EU diifference as you will=20
notice that both the machines I was most recently playing with i.e. =
the:
TMobile MDAIII
http://www.mobilegazette.com/tmobile-mda-iii.htm
& the
Nokia 9300
http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,60764,00.html
Both have built in keyboards.
> I=20
> believe people choose these devices for the form factor. I know I =
did. =20
> I've had multiple PDAs given to me and I never carried them with me=20
> because they didn't fit in my pocket. I did take them travelling as =
a=20
> handy address book.=20
Smartphone =3D PDA with greater mobile connectivity than a PC & PC =
like=20
specs.
They're not just for address lists any more. Come into 2005 Rich.....
> My smartphone does that both with a smaller form=20
> factor and without the effort of syncing plus adds email in a form =
that=20
> is useful to me. None of this removes the value I get from my =
laptop.
> =20
Of course it doesn't because that would remove some value you get from =
WinTel & we can't have MS people admitting that online.
Adam
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Blah blah blah. I =
realize you=20
are trying to change the topic still to throw digs at Microsoft. =
Even=20
after this immature behavior you still fail to say any more than you are =
unable=20
to perceive size differences. Bluetooth does not make external =
keyboards=20
small nor does it change the display size. That you can find a =
Windows=20
Mobile based PDA phone with a keyboard of a bulky nokia device I've =
never=20
seen used with a keypad doesn't change the size.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Adam" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes">mmmmm_beer_mmmm_donuts@moes</=
A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
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V>Rich=20
wrote:<BR><BR>> Nokia used to have more leverage =
than=20
they do not.<BR><BR>Yes & no. It's mostly down to fashions & =
they=20
stuck with the candybar <BR>instead of producing some flipdowns. Their =
new=20
designs though are <BR>pulling n the slack & meanwhle other =
smaller=20
vendors (e.g. siemans) may <BR>well be pulling =
out.<BR><BR><BR>> If=20
they haven't <BR>> already they will get over it.<BR><BR>As will =
MS. Which=20
is the point. MS is used to being the 90%+ dominant & <BR>thus =
bing able=20
to dictate rather than being dictated to.<BR><BR>> I think =
they have=20
responded which is why <BR>> they started to try to share with=20
symbian. When they dominated they did <BR>> not=20
share.<BR>><BR><BR>Nah it's more to do with fashion. No flipdowns =
where=20
moto & Samsung did <BR>them & the fashion went against=20
candybars.<BR><BR><BR>> As for keyboards and the =
like for=20
phones, I do believe I am typical. <BR>> I know hardly anyone =
that=20
has a keyboard for their phone or even PDA.<BR><BR>A) Wrt bluetooth I =
know a=20
few & the number is growng<BR>B) WRT the machines then it must be =
a US/EU=20
diifference as you will <BR>notice that both the machines I was most =
recently=20
playing with i.e. the:<BR><BR>TMobile MDAIII<BR><BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.mobilegazette.com/tmobile-mda-iii.htm">http://www.mobi=
legazette.com/tmobile-mda-iii.htm</A><BR><BR>&=20
the<BR><BR>Nokia 9300<BR><BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,60764,00.html">http://www.nokia.com=
/nokia/0,,60764,00.html</A><BR><BR>Both=20
have built in keyboards.<BR><BR><BR><BR>> I <BR>> believe =
people=20
choose these devices for the form factor. I know I did. =
<BR>>=20
I've had multiple PDAs given to me and I never carried them with me =
<BR>>=20
because they didn't fit in my pocket. I did take them travelling =
as a=20
<BR>> handy address book. <BR><BR>Smartphone =3D PDA with greater =
mobile=20
connectivity than a PC & PC like <BR>specs.<BR><BR>They're not =
just for=20
address lists any more. Come into 2005 Rich.....<BR><BR>> My =
smartphone=20
does that both with a smaller form <BR>> factor and without the =
effort of=20
syncing plus adds email in a form that <BR>> is useful to me. =
None of=20
this removes the value I get from my laptop.<BR>> <BR><BR>Of =
course=20
it doesn't because that would remove some value you get from =
<BR>WinTel &=20
we can't have MS people admitting that=20
online.<BR><BR>Adam</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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