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Text 5633, 173 rader
Skriven 2005-07-03 10:38:48 av Geo (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 5619 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: An Army of Soulless 1's and 0's
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From: "Geo" <georger@nls.net>

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I don't have realplayer or quicktime. Wanna try again?

Geo.
  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42c75faf$1@w3.nls.net...
     This is the nonsense you come up with?  You mentioned eeye which I =
noticed just announced that real player has a heap overflow which they = gladly
describe to the detriment of everyone that uses real player.  And = this is the
kind of nonsense you use as an example of how adding a = favorite side steps
confirmation.  You had an application running on = your machine and making the
change.  Web pages can't do this without = confirmation.  Applications can do
what you can.

  Rich

    "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:42c75843@w3.nls.net...
    By using the features Microsoft has provided, namely scripting and =
controls that are marked safe for scripting.

    The technique has been around for a while and is described here =
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/fq99-032.mspx

    those particular ones are patched and I don't know what controls =
they are currently using but it's still happening to fully patched = systems,
I've found my favorites modified several times this year but = I've never
managed to figure out what site did it, the change was = completely stealth.

    Geo.
      "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42c731e0@w3.nls.net...
         How?

      Rich

        "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:42c7054e$2@w3.nls.net...
        The confirmation can be bypassed by the website.

        Geo.
          "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42c6d5a7$1@w3.nls.net...
             There is a confirmation when a web page tries to add a =
favorite or change your home page.  Why would you lie about stuff like = this?

          Rich
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't have realplayer or quicktime. =
Wanna try=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42c75faf$1@w3.nls.net">news:42c75faf$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; This is the nonsense you =
come up=20
  with?&nbsp; You mentioned eeye which I noticed just announced that =
real player=20
  has a heap overflow which they gladly describe to the detriment of =
everyone=20
  that uses real player.&nbsp; And this is the kind of nonsense you use =
as an=20
  example of how adding a favorite side steps confirmation.&nbsp; You =
had an=20
  application running on your machine and making the change.&nbsp; Web =
pages=20
  can't do this without confirmation.&nbsp; Applications can do what you =

  can.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt;=20
    wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:42c75843@w3.nls.net">news:42c75843@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>By using the features Microsoft has =
provided,=20
    namely scripting and controls that are marked safe for=20
    scripting.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The technique has been around for a =
while and=20
    is described here <A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/fq99-032.mspx"=
>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/fq99-032.mspx</A></FO=
NT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>those particular ones are patched =
and I don't=20
    know what controls they are currently using but it's still happening =
to=20
    fully patched systems, I've found my favorites modified several =
times this=20
    year but I've never managed to figure out what site did it, the =
change was=20
    completely stealth.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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      <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
      =
href=3D"news:42c731e0@w3.nls.net">news:42c731e0@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; =
How?</FONT></DIV><FONT=20
      face=3DArial size=3D2>
      <DIV><BR>Rich</DIV>
      <DIV></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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        <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt;=20
        wrote in message <A=20
        =
href=3D"news:42c7054e$2@w3.nls.net">news:42c7054e$2@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The confirmation can be =
bypassed by the=20
        website.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
          =
href=3D"news:42c6d5a7$1@w3.nls.net">news:42c6d5a7$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; There is a =
confirmation when=20
          a web page tries to add a favorite or change your home =
page.&nbsp; Why=20
          would you lie about stuff like this?</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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