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Text 582, 106 rader
Skriven 2004-09-14 00:00:26 av Rich (1:379/45)
    Kommentar till text 579 av John Beckett (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Spammers faster than the good guys....
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   Personally, I think the NDR issue is noise.  I get NDRs to one of my =
email addresses that is used as a forged from address from spammers.  It =
simply isn't that interesting.  It does bother me that my email is = forged. 
This one example is an msn.com domain address so I benefit if = sender-id info
is published by msn.com.  The benefit though is = equivalent to mike's benefit
from his doing so.  In fact, mike's benefit = is probably greater since he will
care about all email to his domain = while I care only about the one msn.com
address.

Rich

  "John Beckett" <firstlast@compuserve.com.omit> wrote in message =
news:4146651b.1485222507@news.barkto.com...
  On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:53:29 -0700, "Rich" <@> wrote:
  >   Why do you say "Big Companies" only?  It helped mike and he is not =
a
  >"Big Company".

  True. I was thinking more of the motivation. Certainly I would be in
  big trouble from back-scatter if my email address were used by
  spammers as a spoofed source to millions of AOL and other users (if
  their mail servers didn't use SPF). So it potentially has value to me.

  A big company, however, is much more likely to be used for a spoofed
  sender - particularly for phishing or other reputation-damaging junk
  messages. My guess is that the motivation for Sender ID is for these
  benefits to big companies.

  John

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Personally, I think the =
NDR issue is=20
noise.&nbsp; I get NDRs to one of my email addresses that is used as a =
forged=20
from address from spammers.&nbsp; It simply isn't that = interesting.&nbsp;
It=20
does bother me that my email is forged.&nbsp; This one example is an =
msn.com=20
domain address so I benefit if sender-id info is published by = msn.com.&nbsp;
The=20
benefit though is equivalent to mike's benefit from his doing so.&nbsp; = In
fact,=20
mike's benefit is probably greater since he will care about all email to =
his=20
domain while I care only about the one msn.com address.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"John Beckett" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:firstlast@compuserve.com.omit">firstlast@compuserve.com.om=
it</A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
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7@news.barkto.com</A>...</DIV>On=20
  Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:53:29 -0700, "Rich" &lt;@&gt; =
wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Why do you say "Big Companies" only?&nbsp; It helped mike and he is =
not=20
  a<BR>&gt;"Big Company".<BR><BR>True. I was thinking more of the =
motivation.=20
  Certainly I would be in<BR>big trouble from back-scatter if my email =
address=20
  were used by<BR>spammers as a spoofed source to millions of AOL and =
other=20
  users (if<BR>their mail servers didn't use SPF). So it potentially has =
value=20
  to me.<BR><BR>A big company, however, is much more likely to be used =
for a=20
  spoofed<BR>sender - particularly for phishing or other =
reputation-damaging=20
  junk<BR>messages. My guess is that the motivation for Sender ID is for =

  these<BR>benefits to big =
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