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Skriven 2005-07-10 20:28:18 av Rich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 5873 av Rich Gauszka (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Continuing Microsoft Office improvements
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From: "Rich" <@>

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   I don't mind Gary saying that Windows 2000 is good enough for him.  =
What I pointed out was how bogus is claim that 95% of users, particular = the
majority of the world that does not speak a Western European = language, would
agree.

   FYI, Office 2003 is often called Office 11 within Microsoft.  You =
should not read anything into the name Office 12 beyond the version = being 12.

Rich

  "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:42d1de9b$1@w3.nls.net...
  Just stating that opinion by many ( Gary included ) that their current =
Office software is good enough is valid and that they shouldn't have to = jump
through hoops validating that opinion. =20

  I read Ballmer's quote and I still don't know if he is saying that =
Office 2003 is deployed on 10 to 15 percent of installed PCs or if he = means
all versions of Office?

   =
http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/breakingnews.jhtml?articleId=3D1=
65701130
  "We shipped Office 2003 two years ago and roughly Office is deployed =
on just 10 to 15 percent of all installed PCs in the world."=20

  And let's confuse people even more by naming the next version Office =
12

    "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d1d725$1@w3.nls.net...
       Who are you blaming for what?

    Rich

      "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:42d1ba93@w3.nls.net...
      Blame the consumer? Is that the new Microsoft tactic that is to be =
used when a user feels no need to upgrade?   Gary's sentiments regarding =
Office are viewed by many. Will the MS attack machine go after the = bloggers
next ? ( sample below )

      http://www.micropersuasion.com/2005/03/microsoft_offic.html
      It's no secret that Microsoft is having difficulty getting Office =
97 and 2000 users to upgrade to the latest version. Most people use a = small
percentage of the Office suite's full feature set and feel fine = with what
they have.=20

      Or maybe ads with workers in dinosaur masks are just asinine? =
Perhaps MS marketing needs to 'evolve'

      http://www.netimperative.com/2005/04/13/Microsoft_viral
      The "New Era" campaign features actors in an office environment =
wearing dinosaur masks, made by the creators of the Jurassic Park = dinosaurs. 
The ads show the old way of working with Office products, = suggesting that
it's time to evolve with the latest version of Microsoft = Office.=20


      "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net...
           95% what market?  You surely do not mean people that speak =
many non-Western languages because Unicode support did not appear until =
Office 97 and support for more languages and better support for existing = ones
continued to improve with successive releases.  With your broad = brush you are
discounting a great deal of the people on this planet.  = Far more than 5%. 
Western European language speaker are the minority.  = Even you would have to
be blind to not see the clear improvements = between Office 5.0 or even Office
95 and Office 2000.

           I suspect you have no clue what the improvements are in the =
two releases since the one you use.  If I'm wrong feel free to tell us = all
which Office 2003 applications you use and what differences you = perceived.

        Rich

          "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message =
news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net...
          The truth be told, Office for Win95 and Office 5.0 for Win3.1 =
was good
          enough for 95% of the market.

          I've stayed at the Office 2K level with no intention on the =
horizon of going
          higher.

          Gary

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't mind Gary saying =
that Windows=20
2000 is good enough for him.&nbsp; What I pointed out was how bogus is =
claim=20
that 95% of users, particular the majority of the world that does not = speak
a=20
Western European language, would agree.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; FYI, Office 2003 is often =
called=20
Office 11 within Microsoft.&nbsp; You should not read anything into the =
name=20
Office 12 beyond the version being 12.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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  <DIV>"Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:gauszka@hotmail.com">gauszka@hotmail.com</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
  <A =
href=3D"news:42d1de9b$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d1de9b$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Just stating that opinion by many ( Gary included =
) that=20
  their current Office software is good&nbsp;enough is valid and that =
they=20
  shouldn't have to jump through hoops validating that opinion.&nbsp;=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>I read Ballmer's quote and I =
still don't=20
  know if he is saying that Office 2003 is deployed on 10 to 15 percent =
of=20
  installed PCs or if he means all versions of Office?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=3D2><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/breakingnews.jhtml?artic=
leId=3D165701130">http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/breakingnews.j=
html?articleId=3D165701130</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>"We shipped Office 2003 two years ago and roughly Office is =
deployed on=20
  just 10 to 15 percent of all installed PCs in the world." </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>And let's confuse people even more by naming the =
next=20
  version Office 12</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:42d1d725$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d1d725$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Who are you blaming =
for=20
    what?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV>"Rich Gauszka" &lt;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:gauszka@hotmail.com">gauszka@hotmail.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
      message <A=20
      =
href=3D"news:42d1ba93@w3.nls.net">news:42d1ba93@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Blame the consumer? Is that the new Microsoft =
tactic=20
      that is to be used when a user feels no need to =
upgrade?&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      Gary's sentiments regarding Office are viewed by many. Will the MS =
attack=20
      machine go after the bloggers next ? ( sample below )</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20
      =
href=3D"http://www.micropersuasion.com/2005/03/microsoft_offic.html">http=
://www.micropersuasion.com/2005/03/microsoft_offic.html</A></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>It's no secret that Microsoft is having difficulty getting =
Office 97=20
      and 2000 users to upgrade to the latest version. Most people use a =
small=20
      percentage of the Office suite's full feature set and feel fine =
with what=20
      they have. </DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Or maybe ads with workers in dinosaur masks =
are just=20
      asinine? Perhaps MS marketing needs to 'evolve'</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20
      =
href=3D"http://www.netimperative.com/2005/04/13/Microsoft_viral">http://w=
ww.netimperative.com/2005/04/13/Microsoft_viral</A></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>The =93New Era=94 campaign features actors in an office =
environment=20
      wearing dinosaur masks, made by the creators of the <I>Jurassic =
Park</I>=20
      dinosaurs.&nbsp; The ads show the old way of working with Office =
products,=20
      suggesting that it=92s time to evolve with the latest version of =
Microsoft=20
      Office.&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
      =
href=3D"news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
      <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; 95% what =
market?&nbsp; You=20
        surely do not mean people that speak many non-Western languages =
because=20
        Unicode support did not appear until Office 97 and support for =
more=20
        languages and better support for existing ones&nbsp;continued to =
improve=20
        with successive releases.&nbsp; With your broad brush you are=20
        discounting a great deal of the people on this planet.&nbsp; Far =
more=20
        than 5%.&nbsp; Western European language speaker are the =
minority.&nbsp;=20
        Even you would have to be blind to not see the clear =
improvements=20
        between Office 5.0 or even Office 95 and Office =
2000.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; I suspect you have =
no clue=20
        what the improvements are in the two releases since the one you=20
        use.&nbsp; If I'm wrong feel free to tell us all which Office =
2003=20
        applications you use and what differences you =
perceived.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE=20
        style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
          <DIV>"Gary Britt" &lt;<A=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:zotu@nospamforme.com">zotu@nospamforme.com</A>&gt; wrote=20
          in message <A=20
          =
href=3D"news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>The=20
          truth be told, Office for Win95 and Office 5.0 for Win3.1 was=20
          good<BR>enough for 95% of the market.<BR><BR>I've stayed at =
the Office=20
          2K level with no intention on the horizon of=20
          =
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