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Skriven 2005-07-11 23:15:12 av Geo (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 5902 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Reality Check
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From: "Geo" <georger@nls.net>

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I don't know if I'd be satisfied with that version since I didn't start = using
office until Office 97. However I'm completely satisfied using = Qpro version 5
from 1993 so I don't see why I should consider his = statement false simply
because I don't have a version that old.

For me it's not a question of which version was good enough, I like to = keep
current so the question is at which version does or did it become =
unacceptable. Typically becoming unacceptable is why I stop upgrading a =
product.

Geo.
  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d32432@w3.nls.net...
     Irrelevant question and you fail to fall ib gary's bogus 95% unless =
you would be satisfied with Office 5.0 for Windows 3.1.

  Rich

    "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:42d30077$1@w3.nls.net...
    Ok time for a survey.

    I run Office 2000, what versions do the rest of you run?

    Geo.

      "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d29689@w3.nls.net...
         If you truly expect 95% than I believe you are full of it and =
just making up junk to sound as if you know something.  Use "some" if = you
mean some.

      Rich

        "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message =
news:42d292af$1@w3.nls.net...
        I never said it wasn't.  What is it about the definition of the =
words "I
        Suspect" that seem to so trouble your reading comprehension.  =
Quit being
        such a touchy ass about this.  Its not my fault nobody wants to =
upgrade
        their MS Office software.

        Your employer needs to build a business model that doesn't rely =
upon full
        cost monopoly priced upgrades of products every 9 months.  That =
isn't my
        fault either.  Eventually, people say "wait a minute", again not =
my fault.

        I guess Microsoft could get lots of office upgrades if they just =
make
        Longhorn incompatible with every version of MS Office except =
<FILL IN NAME
        OF VERSION HERE>.

        Gary

        "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d28167@w3.nls.net...
           And I still think you have no clue.  The 95% you keep =
claiming is a
        number you pulled out of thin air.

        Rich

          "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
        news:42d265b2$1@w3.nls.net...
          You are right that my perspective does not extend outside the =
USA.

          I never said there weren't *improvements* from Office 5.0 to =
the later
          versions.  I am saying those *improvements* are meaningless to =
95% of the
          market, and in MANY or MOST situations those *improvements* =
are offset by
          dis-incentives and negative changes that are more negative =
than the
          improvements are positive.

          I like office 2000, have no plans to go above office 2000.  =
Truth is, I
          could easily stayed with Office 5.  I suspect that truth holds =
for 95% of
          the market within my perspective.

          Gary

          "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net...
             95% what market?  You surely do not mean people that speak =
many
          non-Western languages because Unicode support did not appear =
until Office
        97
          and support for more languages and better support for existing =
ones
          continued to improve with successive releases.  With your =
broad brush you
          are discounting a great deal of the people on this planet.  =
Far more than
          5%.  Western European language speaker are the minority.  Even =
you would
          have to be blind to not see the clear improvements between =
Office 5.0 or
          even Office 95 and Office 2000.

             I suspect you have no clue what the improvements are in the =
two
        releases
          since the one you use.  If I'm wrong feel free to tell us all =
which Office
          2003 applications you use and what differences you perceived.

          Rich

            "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
          news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net...
            The truth be told, Office for Win95 and Office 5.0 for =
Win3.1 was good
            enough for 95% of the market.

            I've stayed at the Office 2K level with no intention on the =
horizon of
          going
            higher.

            Gary



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't know if I'd be satisfied with =
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satisfied using Qpro version 5 from 1993 so I don't see why I should =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For me it's not a question of which =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d32432@w3.nls.net">news:42d32432@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Irrelevant question and =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt;=20
    wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:42d30077$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d30077$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok time for a survey.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I run Office 2000, what versions do =
the rest of=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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      <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
      =
href=3D"news:42d29689@w3.nls.net">news:42d29689@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; If you truly expect =
95% than I=20
      believe you are full of it and just making up junk to sound as if =
you know=20
      something.&nbsp; Use "some" if you mean some.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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        <DIV>"Gary Britt" &lt;<A=20
        =
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        =
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V>I=20
        never said it wasn't.&nbsp; What is it about the definition of =
the words=20
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comprehension.&nbsp;=20
        Quit being<BR>such a touchy ass about this.&nbsp; Its not my =
fault=20
        nobody wants to upgrade<BR>their MS Office software.<BR><BR>Your =

        employer needs to build a business model that doesn't rely upon=20
        full<BR>cost monopoly priced upgrades of products every 9 =
months.&nbsp;=20
        That isn't my<BR>fault either.&nbsp; Eventually, people say =
"wait a=20
        minute", again not my fault.<BR><BR>I guess Microsoft could get =
lots of=20
        office upgrades if they just make<BR>Longhorn incompatible with =
every=20
        version of MS Office except &lt;FILL IN NAME<BR>OF VERSION=20
        HERE&gt;.<BR><BR>Gary<BR><BR>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message =
<A=20
        =
href=3D"news:42d28167@w3.nls.net">news:42d28167@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p;&nbsp;=20
        And I still think you have no clue.&nbsp; The 95% you keep =
claiming is=20
        a<BR>number you pulled out of thin =
air.<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR>&nbsp; "Gary=20
        Britt" &lt;<A=20
        =
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        =
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        Gary<BR><BR>&nbsp; "Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
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Britt"=20
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