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Skriven 2005-07-13 08:42:38 av Geo (1:379/45)
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Ärende: Re: Continuing Microsoft Office improvements
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From: "Geo" <georger@nls.net>

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See this doesn't work for me because now the slightest desire for a =
modification and you can claim they are not satisfied with the product. = The
reality is they have a choice, product A, B, C, D whatever and they = will
choose the one that is the best fit and then be satisfied that they = are using
the best available, not the perfect product.

Using your definition, there isn't a piece of software ever created with =
which I'm satisfied.

Geo.
  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d4baf7@w3.nls.net...
     Because it doesn't affect their satisfaction with the old version.  =
It would affect a value decision on whether to make a purchase but that = is
independent.

  Rich

    "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message news:42d470d8@w3.nls.net...
    Why not price? If upgrades were free a lot more might not be =
satisfied with the old version.

    Geo.
      "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d3eb2b@w3.nls.net...
         Looking at the new version, yes.  Price, no.

      Rich

        "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:42d3a774@w3.nls.net...
        I think for this discussion satisfied should mean after looking =
at the new version and the price they decide not to upgrade. Because if = I try
to look at it like below, then I'm not satisfied because I want = activation
removed so I can upgrade for no reason but to run the current = version.

        Geo.
          "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d34417@w3.nls.net...
             You have to be careful how you judge whether someone is =
satisfied.  gary didn't do so and I didn't question him on it because = his
claim is clearly made up.

             Anyway, whether someone is satisfied can depend on whether =
the he is aware that something better is available.  I'll use my father =
again.  He has it in his mind that he needs a faster computer.  His = current
computer is faster than his previous one which is faster than = the one before
that.  He knows that faster computers are available and I = believe it is
because of that that his satisfaction with his current one = has decreased. 
I'll give another example.  A good friend of mine has = been watching TV for
around 40 years.  Was he satisfied by his TV, yep.  = Then he got a tivo.  He
is no longer satisfied by a TV without a PVR.  = In both cases, the user has
something good enough and in both cases the = user is no longer satisfied by
what he had before once he knows what he = is missing.

          Rich

            "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:42d335f8$1@w3.nls.net...
            I don't know if I'd be satisfied with that version since I =
didn't start using office until Office 97. However I'm completely = satisfied
using Qpro version 5 from 1993 so I don't see why I should = consider his
statement false simply because I don't have a version that = old.

            For me it's not a question of which version was good enough, =
I like to keep current so the question is at which version does or did = it
become unacceptable. Typically becoming unacceptable is why I stop = upgrading
a product.

            Geo.
              "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42d32432@w3.nls.net...
                 Irrelevant question and you fail to fall ib gary's =
bogus 95% unless you would be satisfied with Office 5.0 for Windows 3.1.

              Rich

                "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:42d30077$1@w3.nls.net...
                Ok time for a survey.

                I run Office 2000, what versions do the rest of you run?

                Geo.

                  "Rich" <@> wrote in message =
news:42d29689@w3.nls.net...
                     If you truly expect 95% than I believe you are full =
of it and just making up junk to sound as if you know something.  Use = "some"
if you mean some.

                  Rich

                    "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in message =
news:42d292af$1@w3.nls.net...
                    I never said it wasn't.  What is it about the =
definition of the words "I
                    Suspect" that seem to so trouble your reading =
comprehension.  Quit being
                    such a touchy ass about this.  Its not my fault =
nobody wants to upgrade
                    their MS Office software.

                    Your employer needs to build a business model that =
doesn't rely upon full
                    cost monopoly priced upgrades of products every 9 =
months.  That isn't my
                    fault either.  Eventually, people say "wait a =
minute", again not my fault.

                    I guess Microsoft could get lots of office upgrades =
if they just make
                    Longhorn incompatible with every version of MS =
Office except <FILL IN NAME
                    OF VERSION HERE>.

                    Gary

                    "Rich" <@> wrote in message =
news:42d28167@w3.nls.net...
                       And I still think you have no clue.  The 95% you =
keep claiming is a
                    number you pulled out of thin air.

                    Rich

                      "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in =
message
                    news:42d265b2$1@w3.nls.net...
                      You are right that my perspective does not extend =
outside the USA.

                      I never said there weren't *improvements* from =
Office 5.0 to the later
                      versions.  I am saying those *improvements* are =
meaningless to 95% of the
                      market, and in MANY or MOST situations those =
*improvements* are offset by
                      dis-incentives and negative changes that are more =
negative than the
                      improvements are positive.

                      I like office 2000, have no plans to go above =
office 2000.  Truth is, I
                      could easily stayed with Office 5.  I suspect that =
truth holds for 95% of
                      the market within my perspective.

                      Gary

                      "Rich" <@> wrote in message =
news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net...
                         95% what market?  You surely do not mean people =
that speak many
                      non-Western languages because Unicode support did =
not appear until Office
                    97
                      and support for more languages and better support =
for existing ones
                      continued to improve with successive releases.  =
With your broad brush you
                      are discounting a great deal of the people on this =
planet.  Far more than
                      5%.  Western European language speaker are the =
minority.  Even you would
                      have to be blind to not see the clear improvements =
between Office 5.0 or
                      even Office 95 and Office 2000.

                         I suspect you have no clue what the =
improvements are in the two
                    releases
                      since the one you use.  If I'm wrong feel free to =
tell us all which Office
                      2003 applications you use and what differences you =
perceived.

                      Rich

                        "Gary Britt" <zotu@nospamforme.com> wrote in =
message
                      news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net...
                        The truth be told, Office for Win95 and Office =
5.0 for Win3.1 was good
                        enough for 95% of the market.

                        I've stayed at the Office 2K level with no =
intention on the horizon of
                      going
                        higher.

                        Gary



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>See this doesn't work for me because =
now the=20
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satisfied with the product. The reality is they have a choice, product = A, B,
C,=20
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satisfied that they are using the best available, not the perfect=20
product.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Using your definition, there isn't a =
piece of=20
software ever created with which I'm satisfied.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42d4baf7@w3.nls.net">news:42d4baf7@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Because it doesn't =
affect their=20
  satisfaction with the old version.&nbsp; It would affect a value =
decision on=20
  whether to make a purchase but that is independent.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt;=20
    wrote in message <A=20
    =
href=3D"news:42d470d8@w3.nls.net">news:42d470d8@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why not price? If upgrades were =
free a lot more=20
    might not be satisfied with the old version.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
      =
href=3D"news:42d3eb2b@w3.nls.net">news:42d3eb2b@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Looking at&nbsp;the =
new version,=20
      yes.&nbsp; Price, no.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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        <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt;=20
        wrote in message <A=20
        =
href=3D"news:42d3a774@w3.nls.net">news:42d3a774@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think for this discussion =
satisfied=20
        should mean after looking at the new version and the price they =
decide=20
        not to upgrade. Because if I try to look at it like below, then =
I'm not=20
        satisfied because I want activation removed so I can upgrade for =
no=20
        reason but to run the current version.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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          <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
          =
href=3D"news:42d34417@w3.nls.net">news:42d34417@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; You have to be =
careful how=20
          you judge whether someone is satisfied.&nbsp; gary didn't do =
so and I=20
          didn't question him on it because his claim is clearly made=20
          up.</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Anyway, whether =
someone is=20
          satisfied can depend on whether the he is aware that something =
better=20
          is available.&nbsp; I'll use my father again.&nbsp; He has it =
in his=20
          mind that he needs a faster computer.&nbsp; His current =
computer is=20
          faster than his previous one which is faster than the one =
before=20
          that.&nbsp; He knows that faster computers are available and I =
believe=20
          it is because of that that his satisfaction with his current =
one has=20
          decreased.&nbsp; I'll give another example.&nbsp; A good =
friend of=20
          mine has been watching TV for around 40 years.&nbsp; Was he =
satisfied=20
          by his TV, yep.&nbsp; Then he got a tivo.&nbsp; He is no =
longer=20
          satisfied by a TV without a PVR.&nbsp; In both cases, the user =
has=20
          something good enough and in both cases the user is no longer=20
          satisfied by what he had before once he&nbsp;knows what =
he&nbsp;is=20
          missing.</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
          style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
            <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A=20
            href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
            message <A=20
            =
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V>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't know if I'd be =
satisfied with=20
            that version since I didn't start using office until Office =
97.=20
            However I'm completely satisfied using Qpro version 5 from =
1993 so I=20
            don't see why I should consider his statement false simply =
because I=20
            don't have a version that old.</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For me it's not a question =
of which=20
            version was good enough, I like to keep current so the =
question is=20
            at which version does or did it become unacceptable. =
Typically=20
            becoming unacceptable is why I stop upgrading a=20
product.</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
            <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
              <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
              =
href=3D"news:42d32432@w3.nls.net">news:42d32432@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
              <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Irrelevant =
question and=20
              you fail to fall ib gary's bogus 95% unless you would be =
satisfied=20
              with Office 5.0 for Windows 3.1.</FONT></DIV>
              <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
              <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
              <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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              style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
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                <DIV>"Geo" &lt;<A=20
                href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
                message <A=20
                =
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V>
                <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok time for a =
survey.</FONT></DIV>
                <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I run Office 2000, what =
versions do=20
                the rest of you run?</FONT></DIV>
                <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Geo.</FONT></DIV>
                <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
                style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
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                  <DIV>"Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
                  =
href=3D"news:42d29689@w3.nls.net">news:42d29689@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; If you =
truly expect=20
                  95% than I believe you are full of it and just making =
up junk=20
                  to sound as if you know something.&nbsp; Use "some" if =
you=20
                  mean some.</FONT></DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
                  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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                    <DIV>"Gary Britt" &lt;<A=20
                    =
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                    wrote in message <A=20
                    =
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V>I=20
                    never said it wasn't.&nbsp; What is it about the =
definition=20
                    of the words "I<BR>Suspect" that seem to so trouble =
your=20
                    reading comprehension.&nbsp; Quit being<BR>such a =
touchy ass=20
                    about this.&nbsp; Its not my fault nobody wants to=20
                    upgrade<BR>their MS Office software.<BR><BR>Your =
employer=20
                    needs to build a business model that doesn't rely =
upon=20
                    full<BR>cost monopoly priced upgrades of products =
every 9=20
                    months.&nbsp; That isn't my<BR>fault either.&nbsp;=20
                    Eventually, people say "wait a minute", again not my =

                    fault.<BR><BR>I guess Microsoft could get lots of =
office=20
                    upgrades if they just make<BR>Longhorn incompatible =
with=20
                    every version of MS Office except &lt;FILL IN =
NAME<BR>OF=20
                    VERSION HERE&gt;.<BR><BR>Gary<BR><BR>"Rich" =
&lt;@&gt; wrote=20
                    in message <A=20
                    =
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p;&nbsp;=20
                    And I still think you have no clue.&nbsp; The 95% =
you keep=20
                    claiming is a<BR>number you pulled out of thin=20
                    air.<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR>&nbsp; "Gary Britt" &lt;<A=20
                    =
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                    wrote in message<BR><A=20
                    =
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&nbsp;=20
                    You are right that my perspective does not extend =
outside=20
                    the USA.<BR><BR>&nbsp; I never said there weren't=20
                    *improvements* from Office 5.0 to the =
later<BR>&nbsp;=20
                    versions.&nbsp; I am saying those *improvements* are =

                    meaningless to 95% of the<BR>&nbsp; market, and in =
MANY or=20
                    MOST situations those *improvements* are offset =
by<BR>&nbsp;=20
                    dis-incentives and negative changes that are more =
negative=20
                    than the<BR>&nbsp; improvements are =
positive.<BR><BR>&nbsp;=20
                    I like office 2000, have no plans to go above office =

                    2000.&nbsp; Truth is, I<BR>&nbsp; could easily =
stayed with=20
                    Office 5.&nbsp; I suspect that truth holds for 95%=20
                    of<BR>&nbsp; the market within my =
perspective.<BR><BR>&nbsp;=20
                    Gary<BR><BR>&nbsp; "Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message =
<A=20
                    =
href=3D"news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d1b1ad$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
                    95% what market?&nbsp; You surely do not mean people =
that=20
                    speak many<BR>&nbsp; non-Western languages because =
Unicode=20
                    support did not appear until Office<BR>97<BR>&nbsp; =
and=20
                    support for more languages and better support for =
existing=20
                    ones<BR>&nbsp; continued to improve with successive=20
                    releases.&nbsp; With your broad brush you<BR>&nbsp; =
are=20
                    discounting a great deal of the people on this =
planet.&nbsp;=20
                    Far more than<BR>&nbsp; 5%.&nbsp; Western European =
language=20
                    speaker are the minority.&nbsp; Even you =
would<BR>&nbsp;=20
                    have to be blind to not see the clear improvements =
between=20
                    Office 5.0 or<BR>&nbsp; even Office 95 and Office=20
                    2000.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I suspect you =
have no=20
                    clue what the improvements are in the=20
                    two<BR>releases<BR>&nbsp; since the one you =
use.&nbsp; If=20
                    I'm wrong feel free to tell us all which =
Office<BR>&nbsp;=20
                    2003 applications you use and what differences you=20
                    perceived.<BR><BR>&nbsp; =
Rich<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
                    "Gary Britt" &lt;<A=20
                    =
href=3D"mailto:zotu@nospamforme.com">zotu@nospamforme.com</A>&gt;=20
                    wrote in message<BR>&nbsp; <A=20
                    =
href=3D"news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net">news:42d194f6$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
                    The truth be told, Office for Win95 and Office 5.0 =
for=20
                    Win3.1 was good<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; enough for 95% =
of the=20
                    market.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I've stayed at the =
Office=20
                    2K level with no intention on the horizon =
of<BR>&nbsp;=20
                    going<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
                    higher.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
                =
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