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Skriven 2005-11-09 20:39:44 av Rich (1:379/45)
Kommentar till text 8146 av Mike '/m' (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Windows Vista video enhancements
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From: "Rich" <@>
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And again you show that you are not just incapable of expressing =
yourself but that you have a reading comprehension problem. Are your =
handlers pushing you for falling behind in your propaganda?
From the referenced article at =
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/evaluate/hardware/vistahard=
ware.mspx to which you failed to provide a link
If you choose a system today that has integrated graphics, look at the =
specific chipsets that are targeted to support Windows Vista Display = Driver
Model, such as Intels 945G express chipset or ATIs RS400 or RS480 = family
chipsets. You may also want to consider dual channel UMA = solutions and 1 GB
of system memory.
and
Whether you choose desktop or mobile configuration today, not all =
graphics cards will have in-box drivers in beta 1. Note that, to get the = AERO
Glass look with beta 1 of Windows Vista today, your system will = need discrete
cards. However, you should be able to get AERO Glass on = systems with advanced
integrated graphics choices with the later builds = of Windows Vista.
Rich
"Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:gft4n1dgq58emil4u2lqb5le166ia4l5m8@4ax.com...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20050805045323.html
=3D=3D=3D
Microsoft Advices to Avoid Integrated Graphics Cores for Windows =
Vista.
Microsoft Urges to Buy Standalone Graphics Cards
The ongoing trend towards integrated graphics cores in office and home
personal computers may soon slowdown, as Microsoft recommends those, =
who
would like to install Windows Vista, to get standalone graphics cards
due to their higher performance when rendering graphics user interface
(GUI) of the upcoming operating system (OS).
"The new graphics capabilities in Windows Vista will require a =
powerful
graphics engine if you want to take full advantage of all the new and
cool stuff, such as the new Aero Glass look. You probably want to =
avoid
the low-end of the current GPU range and make sure you get a GPU that
supports DirectX 9 and has at least 64MB of graphics memory," a =
special
article by Microsoft dedicated to hardware requirements of Windows =
Vista
explains....
=3D=3D=3D
/m
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 16:20:58 -0800, "Rich" <@> wrote:
> If you haven't noticed it is quite common of you to quote =
disparaging articles. It appears you think that it absolves you of =
responsibility if you are just repeating someone else instead of = expressing
yourself and defending your position. Cowardice.
>
> The Microsoft reference was accurate and off topic. Your attempt =
at a diversion was not unexpected.
>
>Rich
>
>
> "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:s9f2n1ppstscjt9iipcv4cpeuuq7k3ohsd@4ax.com...
> No matter how hard you try to spin otherwise, I am not claiming
> anything. Just citing what is in the media. Hey, I even quoted
> Microsoft's own site to show what the correct information is. We =
all
> know that Microsoft's site never contains incorrect information, =
right?=20
> Perhaps you should vent your concern towards Microsoft PR people, =
who
> obviously are unable to get correct information out to the media.
>
> You should thank me for bringing this to your attention.
>
> /m
>
>
> On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:03:23 -0800, "Rich" <@> wrote:
>
> > I only know because you have twice made the claim in an attempt =
to justify your own bad behavior.
> >
> > Funny how you use the term "discerning" to mean "inaccurate". =
Interesting spin.
> >
> >Rich
> >
> > "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:kb92n1p1vb4ljdosjho36rldropv43nl30@4ax.com...
> >
> > Have you noticed that Barron's is writing the same incorrect
> > information? Can't Microsoft get valid information out to the =
media
> > anymore? Geesh, I remember the days of the PCWeek hegemony =
where
> > Microsoft's PR people used to FAX tasty predigested articles to
> > reporters struggling to meet a deadline.
> >
> > Nowadays it appears the reporters are becoming a bit more =
discerning.
> >
> > /m
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 18:17:40 -0800, "Rich" <@> wrote:
> >
> > > Ah, the old "I'm not responsible. I was just doing what I =
was ordered." defense.
> > >
> > >Rich
> > >
> > > "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:pakvm1t3458uvb3be5m2cil8vhp8upevgm@4ax.com...
> > > On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 11:26:54 -0500, "Robert Comer"
> > > <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >> Windows Vista Ready PC Requirements
> > > >
> > > >That really doesn't support your case -- there's no reason =
an LDDM driver=20
> > > >couldn't be written for integrated video, no physical reason =
to limit it to=20
> > > >third party cards.
> > > >
> > > >It is pretty stout to run on older hardware, even without =
LDDM, but it still=20
> > > >runs. (you don't get Glass, but it runs.)
> > >
> > > It's not my case, I was just posting what someone else said. =
And I
> > > posted what Microsoft said on their site.
> > >
> > > /m
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> And again you show that =
you are not=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> From the referenced =
article at <A=20
href=3D"http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/evaluate/hardware/v=
istahardware.mspx">http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/evaluate=
/hardware/vistahardware.mspx</A> to=20
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000>If you choose a system today that has =
integrated=20
graphics, look at the specific chipsets that are targeted to support =
Windows=20
Vista Display Driver Model, such as Intels 945G express chipset or =
ATIs RS400=20
or RS480 family chipsets. You may also want to consider dual channel =
UMA=20
solutions and 1 GB of system memory.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000>Whether you choose desktop or mobile =
configuration=20
today, not all graphics cards will have in-box drivers in beta 1. Note =
that,=20
to get the AERO Glass look with beta 1 of Windows Vista today, your =
system=20
will need discrete cards. However, you should be able to get AERO =
Glass on=20
systems with advanced integrated graphics choices with the later =
builds of=20
Windows Vista.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Mike '/m'" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:gft4n1dgq58emil4u2lqb5le166ia4l5m8@4ax.com">news:gft4n1dgq58=
emil4u2lqb5le166ia4l5m8@4ax.com</A>...</DIV><BR><BR><BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20050805045323.html">h=
ttp://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20050805045323.html</A><BR><BR>=
=3D=3D=3D<BR>Microsoft=20
Advices to Avoid Integrated Graphics Cores for Windows =
Vista.<BR>Microsoft=20
Urges to Buy Standalone Graphics Cards<BR><BR>The ongoing trend =
towards=20
integrated graphics cores in office and home<BR>personal computers may =
soon=20
slowdown, as Microsoft recommends those, who<BR>would like to install =
Windows=20
Vista, to get standalone graphics cards<BR>due to their higher =
performance=20
when rendering graphics user interface<BR>(GUI) of the upcoming =
operating=20
system (OS).<BR><BR>"The new graphics capabilities in Windows Vista =
will=20
require a powerful<BR>graphics engine if you want to take full =
advantage of=20
all the new and<BR>cool stuff, such as the new Aero Glass look. You =
probably=20
want to avoid<BR>the low-end of the current GPU range and make sure =
you get a=20
GPU that<BR>supports DirectX 9 and has at least 64MB of graphics =
memory," a=20
special<BR>article by Microsoft dedicated to hardware requirements of =
Windows=20
Vista<BR>explains....<BR>=3D=3D=3D<BR><BR><BR> /m<BR><BR>On Tue, =
8 Nov 2005=20
16:20:58 -0800, "Rich" <@> wrote:<BR><BR>> If you =
haven't=20
noticed it is quite common of you to quote disparaging articles. =
It=20
appears you think that it absolves you of responsibility if you are =
just=20
repeating someone else instead of expressing yourself and defending =
your=20
position. Cowardice.<BR>><BR>> The Microsoft =
reference=20
was accurate and off topic. Your attempt at a diversion was not=20
unexpected.<BR>><BR>>Rich<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Mike =
'/m'"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A=20
=
href=3D"news:s9f2n1ppstscjt9iipcv4cpeuuq7k3ohsd@4ax.com">news:s9f2n1ppsts=
cjt9iipcv4cpeuuq7k3ohsd@4ax.com</A>...<BR>> =20
No matter how hard you try to spin otherwise, I am not =
claiming<BR>> =20
anything. Just citing what is in the media. Hey, I even=20
quoted<BR>> Microsoft's own site to show what the correct =
information=20
is. We all<BR>> know that Microsoft's site never =
contains=20
incorrect information, right? <BR>> Perhaps you should vent =
your=20
concern towards Microsoft PR people, who<BR>> obviously are =
unable to=20
get correct information out to the media.<BR>><BR>> You =
should=20
thank me for bringing this to your =
attention.<BR>><BR>> =20
/m<BR>><BR>><BR>> On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:03:23 -0800, =
"Rich"=20
<@> wrote:<BR>><BR>> > I only know =
because=20
you have twice made the claim in an attempt to justify your own bad=20
behavior.<BR>> ><BR>> > Funny how =
you use=20
the term "discerning" to mean "inaccurate". Interesting=20
spin.<BR>> ><BR>> >Rich<BR>> =20
><BR>> > "Mike '/m'" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:kb92n1p1vb4ljdosjho36rldropv43nl30@4ax.com">news:kb92n1p1vb4=
ljdosjho36rldropv43nl30@4ax.com</A>...<BR>> =20
><BR>> > Have you noticed that Barron's is =
writing the=20
same incorrect<BR>> > information? Can't =
Microsoft get valid information out to the media<BR>> =
> =20
anymore? Geesh, I remember the days of the PCWeek hegemony=20
where<BR>> > Microsoft's PR people used to FAX tasty =
predigested articles to<BR>> > reporters struggling =
to meet=20
a deadline.<BR>> ><BR>> > Nowadays it =
appears=20
the reporters are becoming a bit more discerning.<BR>> =20
><BR>> > /m<BR>> =
><BR>> =20
><BR>> ><BR>> > On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 =
18:17:40=20
-0800, "Rich" <@> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> =
> =20
> Ah, the old "I'm not responsible. I was just =
doing what=20
I was ordered." defense.<BR>> > ><BR>> =20
> >Rich<BR>> > ><BR>> =
> =20
> "Mike '/m'" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>> wrote in =
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:pakvm1t3458uvb3be5m2cil8vhp8upevgm@4ax.com">news:pakvm1t3458=
uvb3be5m2cil8vhp8upevgm@4ax.com</A>...<BR>> =20
> > On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 11:26:54 -0500, "Robert=20
Comer"<BR>> > > <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:bobcomer@mindspring.com">bobcomer@mindspring.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> > ><BR>> > =
> =20
>> Windows Vista Ready PC Requirements<BR>> > =20
> ><BR>> > > >That really =
doesn't=20
support your case -- there's no reason an LDDM driver <BR>> =20
> > >couldn't be written for integrated video, no =
physical reason to limit it to <BR>> > > =
>third=20
party cards.<BR>> > > ><BR>> =
> =20
> >It is pretty stout to run on older hardware, even =
without LDDM,=20
but it still <BR>> > > >runs. (you don't =
get=20
Glass, but it runs.)<BR>> > ><BR>> =
> =20
> It's not my case, I was just posting what someone else =
said. =20
And I<BR>> > > posted what Microsoft said =
on their=20
site.<BR>> > ><BR>> > =
> =20
/m</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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