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Ärende: Re: Fair Use and MS Monopoly Tactics
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From: "Rich" <@>
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It could be called fair use. It could be called hang gliding. Do =
you typically attempt to justify breaking the law by making up names?
And you should grow up and recognize your attempts at threats only =
make you appear all the more a whiny brat.
Rich
"Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote in message =
news:4384cba8$1@w3.nls.net...
Yes it is legal if handled properly. It would be called fair use, and =
no I'm not worried about being disbarred. Just like you aren't worried = about
being fired for your public anti-customer hostile behavior that = continues to
drive down the opinions of many tech people about your = employer and its
products. Given your employer's general reputation = this kind of customer
norelations posting on your part is probably how = you get a bigger raise. So
why don't you go for the big bucks, and like = I said if you think I'm doing
something wrong then have your general = counsel email me a demand letter.
Better yet post it right here in = binaries. I waive any claim of privacy to
the content of a cease and = desist demand letter from your general counsel's
office to me on the = issue of wanting a method to turn the recovery console
set command *on* = by testing the use of two files from an XP Pro box. Just
make a pdf out = of it and post it in binaries for the world to see what kind
of petty = bullshit you and your employer are all about, or STFU.
You could have avoided all this by just confirming the below =
information as a regedit change, but that would have required a more = customer
centric attitude on yours and your employer's part.
What is it about gpedit.msc on XP Home that's got your undies all in a =
knot? Is that how MS cripples Pro into Home by adjusting some of the = local
machine policies and deleting a few files? I haven't said = anything about
trying to turn XP Home into XP Pro, nor do I have the = desire to waste my time
even considering such an endeavor. I just want = a recovery console, which XP
Home legally installed on my computer, to = be able to access all files and
drives and floppys, instead of just two = directories, windows and the root
directory.
Gary Britt
BTW, to anybody wanting to run a useful recovery console on XP Home, =
make sure you make the following setting in your registry *BEFORE* you = need
to use the recovery console:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows =
NT\CurrentVersion\Setup\RecoveryConsole]
"SetCommand"=3Ddword:00000001
The above is from my win2K box. I believe the SetCommand off or on =
value is at the same location in XP, but you might want to verify that = since
I haven't had a chance yet.
I still have some unanswered questions and comments on XP from my =
original post before Rich threadjacked me into his alternate reality. = So if
anyone cares to go back to my original post and reply to my = comments and
questions there, it would be appreciated.
Gary
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4384bf00@w3.nls.net...
So you don't have an unused Windows XP Professional license. Do =
you really think what you are proposing is legal. Are you a lawyer? = Aren't
you concerned about being disbarred for ethical violations?
Your complaining about the best buy offer price is whining. If you =
want something buy it. If the cost is higher than the value to you then =
don't. You are free to use any of the many alternatives the very = competitive
market makes available to you. If you are unhappy with the = cheaper lesser
products then complain to those folks that they don't = make what you want.
Rich
"Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote in message =
news:4384878e$1@w3.nls.net...
XP Pro is loaded on a computer my wife uses, and I try to avoid her =
computer
at all costs. On the other hand she's never run or even heard of
gpedit.msc.
It wasn't compusa it was best buy, and complaining about your =
company's
monopoly pricing isn't whining, just recognizing the facts. If your =
only
point here is to demonstrate just how far downhill Microsoft has =
gone over
the years, well you continue to perform admirably. If you don't =
have
anything to add to the discussion that's content driven why don't =
you just
STFU. If your employer feels violated by anything I've written then =
have
your general counsel email me a demand letter. Otherwise, the old =
format
command is looking better and better.
Gary
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:43847e54@w3.nls.net...
If you have a valid Windows XP Professional license you should =
install
Windows XP Professional. I'm surprised you say this after your =
earlier
message whining about the price compusa quoted you.
Rich
"Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote in message
news:43841068$1@w3.nls.net...
Yes it would be if I thought it was breaking the law. I have =
valid
licenses
for XP Home and XP Pro. Don't you have anything better to do than =
worry
about someone trying to have a workable recovery console on XP =
Home. If a
user attempts to have a safer environment from which to run your =
products
that's a problem for you and your company? If your so worried =
about
someone
running gpedit.msc on XP Home so they can turn on the set commands =
in the
recovery console, you could just provide the proper value to set =
for the
one
or two appropriate keys in the registry.
As for your other question, XP Home is what came with the laptop, =
and
except
for a couple of things its good enough for now. I have never used =
XP on
one
of my computers. I'm looking at it while considering how to =
handle moving
my licensed full retail copy of win2k over from my old laptop. =
Your
helpful
interjection into this thread certainly makes me want to invest =
the time
learning to use your current OS versus just staying with Win2K or =
going to
Linux and running my Office 2K Apps under Linux.
OH and thanks for answering my questions and trying to improve =
your
company's image with its customers. You're doing a great job.
Gary
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4384036b@w3.nls.net...
Isn't it unwise for a lawyer to discuss his breaking the law in =
a
public
forum?
If you want Windows XP Professional why didn't you buy Windows =
XP
Professional?
Rich
"Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote in message
news:4383ec15$1@w3.nls.net...
I think I've figured out how to hack the registry to get the set =
command
turned on in the recovery console so I can access everything =
when in the
recovery console. I've found reference to a technique of =
bringing over
two
files from an XP Pro machine and registering them with regsvr32 =
that
supposedly allows the gpedit.msc console to run on XP Home. =
Anybody
done
this before?
Gary
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> It could be called fair =
use. It=20
could be called hang gliding. Do you typically attempt to justify =
breaking=20
the law by making up names?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> And you should grow up and =
recognize=20
your attempts at threats only make you appear all the more a whiny=20
brat.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Gary Britt" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:email@from_Gary_Britt.org">email@from_Gary_Britt.org</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4384cba8$1@w3.nls.net">news:4384cba8$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>
<DIV>Yes it is legal if handled properly. It would be =
called fair=20
use, and no I'm not worried about being disbarred. Just like you =
aren't=20
worried about being fired for your public anti-customer hostile =
behavior=20
that continues to drive down the opinions of many tech people about =
your=20
employer and its products. Given your employer's general=20
reputation this kind of customer norelations posting on your part =
is=20
probably how you get a bigger raise. So why don't you go =
for the=20
big bucks, and like I said if you think I'm doing something wrong then =
have=20
your general counsel email me a demand letter. Better yet post =
it right=20
here in binaries. I waive any claim of privacy to the content of =
a cease=20
and desist demand letter from your general counsel's office to me on =
the issue=20
of wanting a method to turn the recovery console set command *on* by =
testing=20
the use of two files from an XP Pro box. Just make a pdf out of =
it and=20
post it in binaries for the world to see what kind of petty bullshit =
you and=20
your employer are all about, or STFU.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You could have avoided all this by just confirming the below =
information=20
as a regedit change, but that would have required a more customer =
centric=20
attitude on yours and your employer's part.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What is it about gpedit.msc on XP Home that's got your undies all =
in a=20
knot? Is that how MS cripples Pro into Home by adjusting some of =
the=20
local machine policies and deleting a few files? I haven't said =
anything=20
about trying to turn XP Home into XP Pro, nor do I have the desire to =
waste my=20
time even considering such an endeavor. I just =
want a=20
recovery console, which XP Home legally installed on my=20
computer, to be able to access all files and drives and floppys, =
instead=20
of just two directories, windows and the root directory.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Gary Britt</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>BTW, to anybody wanting to run a useful recovery console on XP =
Home, make=20
sure you make the following setting in your registry *BEFORE* you need =
to use=20
the recovery console:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows=20
=
NT\CurrentVersion\Setup\RecoveryConsole]<BR>"SetCommand"=3Ddword:00000001=
<BR></DIV>
<DIV>The above is from my win2K box. I believe the SetCommand =
off or on=20
value is at the same location in XP, but you might want to verify that =
since I=20
haven't had a chance yet.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I<STRONG> still have some unanswered questions and comments on XP =
from my=20
original post before Rich threadjacked me into his alternate =
reality. So=20
if anyone cares to go back to my original post and reply to my =
comments and=20
questions there, it would be appreciated.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Gary</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4384bf00@w3.nls.net">news:4384bf00@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>&n=
bsp; =20
So you don't have an unused Windows XP Professional license. Do =
you=20
really think what you are proposing is legal. Are you a =
lawyer? =20
Aren't you concerned about being disbarred for ethical=20
violations?<BR><BR> Your complaining about the best buy =
offer=20
price is whining. If you want something buy it. If the =
cost is=20
higher than the value to you then don't. You are free to use any =
of the=20
many alternatives the very competitive market makes available to =
you. If=20
you are unhappy with the cheaper lesser products then complain to =
those folks=20
that they don't make what you want.<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR><BR> =
"Gary Britt"=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:email@from_Gary_Britt.org">email@from_Gary_Britt.org</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4384878e$1@w3.nls.net">news:4384878e$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
XP Pro is loaded on a computer my wife uses, and I try to avoid her=20
computer<BR> at all costs. On the other hand she's never =
run or=20
even heard of<BR> gpedit.msc.<BR><BR> It wasn't compusa it =
was=20
best buy, and complaining about your company's<BR> monopoly =
pricing=20
isn't whining, just recognizing the facts. If your =
only<BR> point=20
here is to demonstrate just how far downhill Microsoft has gone =
over<BR> =20
the years, well you continue to perform admirably. If you don't=20
have<BR> anything to add to the discussion that's content driven =
why=20
don't you just<BR> STFU. If your employer feels violated =
by=20
anything I've written then have<BR> your general counsel email =
me a=20
demand letter. Otherwise, the old format<BR> command is =
looking=20
better and better.<BR><BR> Gary<BR><BR> "Rich" <@> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43847e54@w3.nls.net">news:43847e54@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
If you have a valid Windows XP Professional license you should=20
install<BR> Windows XP Professional. I'm surprised you say =
this=20
after your earlier<BR> message whining about the price compusa =
quoted=20
you.<BR><BR> Rich<BR><BR> "Gary Britt" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:email@from_Gary_Britt.org">email@from_Gary_Britt.org</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message<BR> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43841068$1@w3.nls.net">news:43841068$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
Yes it would be if I thought it was breaking the law. I have=20
valid<BR> licenses<BR> for XP Home and XP =
Pro. =20
Don't you have anything better to do than worry<BR> =
about=20
someone trying to have a workable recovery console on XP Home. =
If=20
a<BR> user attempts to have a safer environment from =
which=20
to run your products<BR> that's a problem for you =
and your=20
company? If your so worried about<BR> =20
someone<BR> running gpedit.msc on XP Home so they =
can turn=20
on the set commands in the<BR> recovery console, you =
could=20
just provide the proper value to set for the<BR> =20
one<BR> or two appropriate keys in the=20
registry.<BR><BR> As for your other question, XP =
Home is=20
what came with the laptop, and<BR> except<BR> =
for a=20
couple of things its good enough for now. I have never used XP=20
on<BR> one<BR> of my computers. I'm =
looking at=20
it while considering how to handle moving<BR> my =
licensed=20
full retail copy of win2k over from my old laptop. =
Your<BR> =20
helpful<BR> interjection into this thread certainly =
makes me=20
want to invest the time<BR> learning to use your =
current OS=20
versus just staying with Win2K or going to<BR> Linux =
and=20
running my Office 2K Apps under Linux.<BR><BR> OH =
and thanks=20
for answering my questions and trying to improve =
your<BR> =20
company's image with its customers. You're doing a great=20
job.<BR><BR> Gary<BR><BR><BR> =
"Rich"=20
<@> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4384036b@w3.nls.net">news:4384036b@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
Isn't it unwise for a lawyer to discuss his breaking the law in =
a<BR> =20
public<BR> =20
forum?<BR><BR> If you want Windows =
XP=20
Professional why didn't you buy Windows XP<BR> =20
Professional?<BR><BR> =20
Rich<BR><BR> "Gary Britt" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:email@from_Gary_Britt.org">email@from_Gary_Britt.org</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message<BR> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4383ec15$1@w3.nls.net">news:4383ec15$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
<BR><BR> =20
I think I've figured out how to hack the registry to get the set=20
command<BR> turned on in the recovery =
console so=20
I can access everything when in the<BR> =
recovery=20
console. I've found reference to a technique of bringing=20
over<BR> two<BR> files =
from an=20
XP Pro machine and registering them with regsvr32=20
that<BR> supposedly allows the =
gpedit.msc=20
console to run on XP Home. Anybody<BR> =20
done<BR> this=20
before?<BR><BR> =20
Gary<BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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