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   Sure you did.  You tried to justify your copying software licensed =
for use on your wife's computer to one of your computers.  One = justification
you attempted is that best buy offered to sell you what = you want at a price
higher than you wanted to pay, not that you offered = to pay anything at all. 
Another is that you tried you claim that this = would be "fair use".  That is
quite a stretch.  Another justification = you have attempted is to disparage
the company from whom you are = stealing possible in an attempt to  excuse
instead of justify.  That you = have a lack of ethics may or may not be a topic
of interest to the bar.  = That you are so miserable at defending your position
and repeatedly fall = back on threats and insults is something you might want
to consider.
Rich
  "Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote in message =
news:43854257@w3.nls.net...
  I never attempt to justify breaking the law Rich, nor have I done so =
in this
  case.  I leave the law breaking and justifications therefore to you =
and your
  employer Microsoft, or does Microsoft your employer and you no longer =
seek
  to justify breaking the anti-trust laws and RICO civil and criminal
  conspiracy statutes for more than a decade.  Your employer steals =
BILLIONS
  through its monopolistic practices and violations of anti-trust laws, =
and
  its no wonder that a person of such low character and moral fiber as
  yourself fits right in at the Redmond campus.
  Before worrying about the spec of dust in my eye, worry about the =
lumbar
  yard in yours.
  Gary
  "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:438527d2@w3.nls.net...
     It could be called fair use.  It could be called hang gliding.  Do =
you
  typically attempt to justify breaking the law by making up names?
     And you should grow up and recognize your attempts at threats only =
make
  you appear all the more a whiny brat.
  Rich
    "Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote in message
  news:4384cba8$1@w3.nls.net...
    Yes it is legal if handled properly.  It would be called fair use, =
and no
  I'm not worried about being disbarred.  Just like you aren't worried =
about
  being fired for your public anti-customer hostile behavior that =
continues to
  drive down the opinions of many tech people about your employer and =
its
  products.  Given your employer's general reputation this kind of =
customer
  norelations posting on your part is probably how you get a bigger =
raise.  So
  why don't you go for the big bucks, and like I said if you think I'm =
doing
  something wrong then have your general counsel email me a demand =
letter.
  Better yet post it right here in binaries.  I waive any claim of =
privacy to
  the content of a cease and desist demand letter from your general =
counsel's
  office to me on the issue of wanting a method to turn the recovery =
console
  set command *on* by testing the use of two files from an XP Pro box.  =
Just
  make a pdf out of it and post it in binaries for the world to see what =
kind
  of petty bullshit you and your employer are all about, or STFU.
    You could have avoided all this by just confirming the below =
information
  as a regedit change, but that would have required a more customer =
centric
  attitude on yours and your employer's part.
    What is it about gpedit.msc on XP Home that's got your undies all in =
a
  knot?  Is that how MS cripples Pro into Home by adjusting some of the =
local
  machine policies and deleting a few files?  I haven't said anything =
about
  trying to turn XP Home into XP Pro, nor do I have the desire to waste =
my
  time even considering such an endeavor.  I just want a recovery =
console,
  which XP Home legally installed on my computer, to be able to access =
all
  files and drives and floppys, instead of just two directories,  =
windows and
  the root directory.
    Gary Britt
    BTW, to anybody wanting to run a useful recovery console on XP Home, =
make
  sure you make the following setting in your registry *BEFORE* you need =
to
  use the recovery console:
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
  NT\CurrentVersion\Setup\RecoveryConsole]
    "SetCommand"=3Ddword:00000001
    The above is from my win2K box.  I believe the SetCommand off or on =
value
  is at the same location in XP, but you might want to verify that since =
I
  haven't had a chance yet.
    I still have some unanswered questions and comments on XP from my =
original
  post before Rich threadjacked me into his alternate reality.  So if =
anyone
  cares to go back to my original post and reply to my comments and =
questions
  there, it would be appreciated.
    Gary
    "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4384bf00@w3.nls.net...
       So you don't have an unused Windows XP Professional license.  Do =
you
  really think what you are proposing is legal.  Are you a lawyer?  =
Aren't you
  concerned about being disbarred for ethical violations?
       Your complaining about the best buy offer price is whining.  If =
you
  want something buy it.  If the cost is higher than the value to you =
then
  don't.  You are free to use any of the many alternatives the very
  competitive market makes available to you.  If you are unhappy with =
the
  cheaper lesser products then complain to those folks that they don't =
make
  what you want.
    Rich
      "Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote in message
  news:4384878e$1@w3.nls.net...
      XP Pro is loaded on a computer my wife uses, and I try to avoid =
her
  computer
      at all costs.  On the other hand she's never run or even heard of
      gpedit.msc.
      It wasn't compusa it was best buy, and complaining about your =
company's
      monopoly pricing isn't whining, just recognizing the facts.  If =
your
  only
      point here is to demonstrate just how far downhill Microsoft has =
gone
  over
      the years, well you continue to perform admirably.  If you don't =
have
      anything to add to the discussion that's content driven why don't =
you
  just
      STFU.  If your employer feels violated by anything I've written =
then
  have
      your general counsel email me a demand letter.  Otherwise, the old
  format
      command is looking better and better.
      Gary
      "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:43847e54@w3.nls.net...
         If you have a valid Windows XP Professional license you should
  install
      Windows XP Professional.  I'm surprised you say this after your =
earlier
      message whining about the price compusa quoted you.
      Rich
        "Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote in message
      news:43841068$1@w3.nls.net...
        Yes it would be if I thought it was breaking the law.  I have =
valid
      licenses
        for XP Home and XP Pro.  Don't you have anything better to do =
than
  worry
        about someone trying to have a workable recovery console on XP =
Home.
  If a
        user attempts to have a safer environment from which to run your
  products
        that's a problem for you and your company?  If your so worried =
about
      someone
        running gpedit.msc on XP Home so they can turn on the set =
commands in
  the
        recovery console, you could just provide the proper value to set =
for
  the
      one
        or two appropriate keys in the registry.
        As for your other question, XP Home is what came with the =
laptop, and
      except
        for a couple of things its good enough for now.  I have never =
used XP
  on
      one
        of my computers.  I'm looking at it while considering how to =
handle
  moving
        my licensed full retail copy of win2k over from my old laptop.  =
Your
      helpful
        interjection into this thread certainly makes me want to invest =
the
  time
        learning to use your current OS versus just staying with Win2K =
or
  going to
        Linux and running my Office 2K Apps under Linux.
        OH and thanks for answering my questions and trying to improve =
your
        company's image with its customers.  You're doing a great job.
        Gary
        "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4384036b@w3.nls.net...
           Isn't it unwise for a lawyer to discuss his breaking the law =
in a
      public
        forum?
           If you want Windows XP Professional why didn't you buy =
Windows XP
        Professional?
        Rich
          "Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote in message
        news:4383ec15$1@w3.nls.net...
          I think I've figured out how to hack the registry to get the =
set
  command
          turned on in the recovery console so I can access everything =
when in
  the
          recovery console.  I've found reference to a technique of =
bringing
  over
        two
          files from an XP Pro machine and registering them with =
regsvr32 that
          supposedly allows the gpedit.msc console to run on XP Home.  =
Anybody
      done
          this before?
          Gary
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>   Sure you did.  You =
tried to=20
justify your copying software licensed for use on your wife's computer = to one
of=20
your computers.  One justification you attempted is that best buy =
offered=20
to sell you what you want at a price higher than you wanted to pay, not = that
you=20
offered to pay anything at all.  Another is that you tried you = claim
that=20
this would be "fair use".  That is quite a stretch.  Another=20
justification you have attempted is to disparage the company from whom = you
are=20
stealing possible in an attempt to  excuse instead of = justify. 
That=20
you have a lack of ethics may or may not be a topic of interest to the=20
bar.  That you are so miserable at defending your position and =
repeatedly=20
fall back on threats and insults is something you might want to=20
consider.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV>"Gary Britt" <<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:email@from_Gary_Britt.org">email@from_Gary_Britt.org</A>&g=
t;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:43854257@w3.nls.net">news:43854257@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>I =
never=20
  attempt to justify breaking the law Rich, nor have I done so in=20
  this<BR>case.  I leave the law breaking and justifications =
therefore to=20
  you and your<BR>employer Microsoft, or does Microsoft your employer =
and you no=20
  longer seek<BR>to justify breaking the anti-trust laws and RICO civil =
and=20
  criminal<BR>conspiracy statutes for more than a decade.  Your =
employer=20
  steals BILLIONS<BR>through its monopolistic practices and violations =
of=20
  anti-trust laws, and<BR>its no wonder that a person of such low =
character and=20
  moral fiber as<BR>yourself fits right in at the Redmond =
campus.<BR><BR>Before=20
  worrying about the spec of dust in my eye, worry about the =
lumbar<BR>yard in=20
  yours.<BR><BR>Gary<BR><BR>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:438527d2@w3.nls.net">news:438527d2@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
  It could be called fair use.  It could be called hang =
gliding.  Do=20
  you<BR>typically attempt to justify breaking the law by making up=20
  names?<BR><BR>   And you should grow up and recognize your =
attempts=20
  at threats only make<BR>you appear all the more a whiny=20
  brat.<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR>  "Gary Britt" <<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:email@from_Gary_Britt.org">email@from_Gary_Britt.org</A>&g=
t;=20
  wrote in message<BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"news:4384cba8$1@w3.nls.net">news:4384cba8$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
 =20
  Yes it is legal if handled properly.  It would be called fair =
use, and=20
  no<BR>I'm not worried about being disbarred.  Just like you =
aren't=20
  worried about<BR>being fired for your public anti-customer hostile =
behavior=20
  that continues to<BR>drive down the opinions of many tech people about =
your=20
  employer and its<BR>products.  Given your employer's general =
reputation=20
  this kind of customer<BR>norelations posting on your part is probably =
how you=20
  get a bigger raise.  So<BR>why don't you go for the big bucks, =
and like I=20
  said if you think I'm doing<BR>something wrong then have your general =
counsel=20
  email me a demand letter.<BR>Better yet post it right here in =
binaries. =20
  I waive any claim of privacy to<BR>the content of a cease and desist =
demand=20
  letter from your general counsel's<BR>office to me on the issue of =
wanting a=20
  method to turn the recovery console<BR>set command *on* by testing the =
use of=20
  two files from an XP Pro box.  Just<BR>make a pdf out of it and =
post it=20
  in binaries for the world to see what kind<BR>of petty bullshit you =
and your=20
  employer are all about, or STFU.<BR><BR>  You could have avoided =
all this=20
  by just confirming the below information<BR>as a regedit change, but =
that=20
  would have required a more customer centric<BR>attitude on yours and =
your=20
  employer's part.<BR><BR>  What is it about gpedit.msc on XP Home =
that's=20
  got your undies all in a<BR>knot?  Is that how MS cripples Pro =
into Home=20
  by adjusting some of the local<BR>machine policies and deleting a few=20
  files?  I haven't said anything about<BR>trying to turn XP Home =
into XP=20
  Pro, nor do I have the desire to waste my<BR>time even considering =
such an=20
  endeavor.  I just want a recovery console,<BR>which XP Home =
legally=20
  installed on my computer, to be able to access all<BR>files and drives =
and=20
  floppys, instead of just two directories,  windows and<BR>the =
root=20
  directory.<BR><BR>  Gary Britt<BR><BR><BR>  BTW, to anybody =
wanting=20
  to run a useful recovery console on XP Home, make<BR>sure you make the =
  following setting in your registry *BEFORE* you need to<BR>use the =
recovery=20
  console:<BR><BR><BR> =20
  =
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows<BR>NT\CurrentVersion\Setup=
\RecoveryConsole]<BR> =20
  "SetCommand"=3Ddword:00000001<BR><BR>  The above is from my win2K =
  box.  I believe the SetCommand off or on value<BR>is at the same =
location=20
  in XP, but you might want to verify that since I<BR>haven't had a =
chance=20
  yet.<BR><BR>  I still have some unanswered questions and comments =
on XP=20
  from my original<BR>post before Rich threadjacked me into his =
alternate=20
  reality.  So if anyone<BR>cares to go back to my original post =
and reply=20
  to my comments and questions<BR>there, it would be =
appreciated.<BR><BR> =20
  Gary<BR><BR><BR>  "Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:4384bf00@w3.nls.net">news:4384bf00@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p;   =20
  So you don't have an unused Windows XP Professional license.  Do=20
  you<BR>really think what you are proposing is legal.  Are you a=20
  lawyer?  Aren't you<BR>concerned about being disbarred for =
ethical=20
  violations?<BR><BR>     Your complaining about the =
best=20
  buy offer price is whining.  If you<BR>want something buy =
it.  If=20
  the cost is higher than the value to you then<BR>don't.  You are =
free to=20
  use any of the many alternatives the very<BR>competitive market makes=20
  available to you.  If you are unhappy with the<BR>cheaper lesser =
products=20
  then complain to those folks that they don't make<BR>what you=20
  want.<BR><BR>  Rich<BR><BR><BR>    "Gary Britt" =
<<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:email@from_Gary_Britt.org">email@from_Gary_Britt.org</A>&g=
t;=20
  wrote in message<BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"news:4384878e$1@w3.nls.net">news:4384878e$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
   =20
  XP Pro is loaded on a computer my wife uses, and I try to avoid=20
  her<BR>computer<BR>    at all costs.  On the other =
hand=20
  she's never run or even heard of<BR>   =20
  gpedit.msc.<BR><BR>    It wasn't compusa it was best =
buy, and=20
  complaining about your company's<BR>    monopoly =
pricing isn't=20
  whining, just recognizing the facts.  If=20
  your<BR>only<BR>    point here is to demonstrate just =
how far=20
  downhill Microsoft has gone<BR>over<BR>    the years, =
well you=20
  continue to perform admirably.  If you don't =
have<BR>   =20
  anything to add to the discussion that's content driven why don't=20
  you<BR>just<BR>    STFU.  If your employer feels =
violated=20
  by anything I've written then<BR>have<BR>    your =
general=20
  counsel email me a demand letter.  Otherwise, the=20
  old<BR>format<BR>    command is looking better and=20
  better.<BR><BR>    Gary<BR><BR>    =
"Rich"=20
  <@> wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:43847e54@w3.nls.net">news:43847e54@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p;     =20
  If you have a valid Windows XP Professional license you=20
  should<BR>install<BR>    Windows XP Professional.  =
I'm=20
  surprised you say this after your earlier<BR>    =
message=20
  whining about the price compusa quoted you.<BR><BR>   =20
  Rich<BR><BR>      "Gary Britt" <<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:email@from_Gary_Britt.org">email@from_Gary_Britt.org</A>&g=
t;=20
  wrote in message<BR>    <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:43841068$1@w3.nls.net">news:43841068$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
     =20
  Yes it would be if I thought it was breaking the law.  I have=20
  valid<BR>    licenses<BR>      =
for XP=20
  Home and XP Pro.  Don't you have anything better to do=20
  than<BR>worry<BR>      about someone trying =
to have a=20
  workable recovery console on XP Home.<BR>If=20
  a<BR>      user attempts to have a safer =
environment=20
  from which to run your<BR>products<BR>      =
that's a=20
  problem for you and your company?  If your so worried=20
  about<BR>    someone<BR>      =
running=20
  gpedit.msc on XP Home so they can turn on the set commands=20
  in<BR>the<BR>      recovery console, you =
could just=20
  provide the proper value to set for<BR>the<BR>   =20
  one<BR>      or two appropriate keys in the=20
  registry.<BR><BR>      As for your other =
question, XP=20
  Home is what came with the laptop, and<BR>   =20
  except<BR>      for a couple of things its =
good=20
  enough for now.  I have never used XP<BR>on<BR>    =
  one<BR>      of my computers.  I'm =
looking at it=20
  while considering how to =
handle<BR>moving<BR>      my=20
  licensed full retail copy of win2k over from my old laptop. =20
  Your<BR>    helpful<BR>     =20
  interjection into this thread certainly makes me want to invest=20
  the<BR>time<BR>      learning to use your =
current OS=20
  versus just staying with Win2K or<BR>going=20
  to<BR>      Linux and running my Office 2K =
Apps under=20
  Linux.<BR><BR>      OH and thanks for =
answering my=20
  questions and trying to improve your<BR>      =
  company's image with its customers.  You're doing a great=20
  job.<BR><BR>     =20
  Gary<BR><BR><BR>      "Rich" <@> wrote =
in=20
  message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:4384036b@w3.nls.net">news:4384036b@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p;       =20
  Isn't it unwise for a lawyer to discuss his breaking the law in=20
  a<BR>    public<BR>     =20
  forum?<BR><BR>         If you =
want=20
  Windows XP Professional why didn't you buy Windows=20
  XP<BR>     =20
  Professional?<BR><BR>     =20
  Rich<BR><BR>        "Gary Britt" =
<<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:email@from_Gary_Britt.org">email@from_Gary_Britt.org</A>&g=
t;=20
  wrote in message<BR>      <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:4383ec15$1@w3.nls.net">news:4383ec15$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
<BR><BR>       =20
  I think I've figured out how to hack the registry to get the=20
  set<BR>command<BR>        turned on =
in the=20
  recovery console so I can access everything when=20
  in<BR>the<BR>        recovery=20
  console.  I've found reference to a technique of=20
  bringing<BR>over<BR>     =20
  two<BR>        files from an XP Pro =
machine=20
  and registering them with regsvr32=20
  that<BR>        supposedly allows =
the=20
  gpedit.msc console to run on XP Home.  =
Anybody<BR>   =20
  done<BR>        this=20
  before?<BR><BR>       =20
  Gary<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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