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Skriven 2005-12-04 22:51:20 av Gary Britt (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 8653 av Mike '/m' (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Buried in Real's EULA for RealPlayer 10.5
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From: "Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org>

I've got a free copy of Opera (I guess its totally free to everyone now), I'll
have to give it a try.

Gary

"Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message
news:c647p15qeafccdff1k36u97gecel8f8gb6@4ax.com...
>
> I suspect it will protect you from some of it, but not all of it.
>
> One of the things I dislike about RealPlayer (and lots of other web
> stuff that has sold out to MS) is that it uses the IE security defaults
> regarding cookies, trusted sites, etc.  When I use Real, I have a
> different view of a trusted site than when I use IE.  Yet, when I make a
> change for Real, that change is reflected in the IE settings as well.
>
> That's another reason why I prefer to use Opera, its security settings
> don't change when I play a MP3 in RealPlayer....
>
>  /m
>
>
> On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:41:49 -0500, "Gary Britt"
> <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote:
>
> >My new laptop came with Norton Internet Security (i.e. AV, Spam Killer,
And
> >Firewall).  I've never run a software firewall before, always just relied
on
> >my router's firewall.  Anyway, since it was preinstalled I've left it
> >running to see what it was like.  I want to recall that when I first
fired
> >up Real that the Firewall popped up and asked me if I wanted to permit
Real
> >Player to use the net.  I always turn off Real Player's cookies and phone
> >home stuff and message center, etc.  Does that protect from all the BS
you
> >quoted below?  I don't subscribe to any premium content either.
> >
> >So far what I like the most about the Norton Firewall is that it comes
> >pre-configured for a lot of normal things and ready to tune appropriate
> >settings and default rules automatically, which is something some here
hate
> >but is what I needed to not immediately remove/turn off the product on my
> >machine.  I haven't minded running it because it hasn't been annoying me
to
> >death as did my only other look a software firewall did a few years ago.
> >
> >Gary
> >
> >"Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message
> >news:tlb6p1p8789f0d8tmqfmaap9kkbsf298gd@4ax.com...
> >>
> >> Number 6 is the one that got my attention.  A software product taking
> >> the liberty to defeat the security I have on my computer.
> >>
> >> At this point, it does not seem to affect Outpost's settings.  But
> >> something like Norton's "firewall" or even ZoneAlarm, I'd be more
> >> suspicious.  (maybe that's one of the reasons why Norton killed
Sygate's
> >> firewall, it cannot be controlled by applications...)
> >>
> >>  /m
> >>
> >> On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 12:18:12 -0500, "Gary Britt"
> >> <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Number 6 is particularly troublesome.  Another reason to keep uPnp
turned
> >> >off on the router.
> >> >
> >> >Gary
> >> >
> >> >"Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:pp56p15pbs5skqm44cil2islssb84iq5vt@4ax.com...
> >> >>
> >> >> ...6.  FIREWALL CONFIGURATION.  The Software configures certain
> >firewall
> >> >> applications such that the user is not alerted when the Software
> >> >> requests or receives data necessary for playback of content over the
> >UDP
> >> >> protocol.
> >> >>
> >> >> 7.  AUTOMATIC COMMUNICATIONS FEATURES.
> >> >>
> >> >> a)  The Software consists of interactive Internet applications that
> >> >> perform a variety of communications over the Internet as part of
their
> >> >> normal operation.  A number of communications features are automatic
> >and
> >> >> are enabled by default. By installing and/or using the Software, you
> >> >> consent to the Software's communications features.  Once you log
into
> >> >> the Software, user information including your user id will be sent
in
> >> >> communications with RN's servers. This information is used to access
> >> >> your regular account, premium content, non-premium content,
services,
> >> >> features, and other personalized services. RN may match the user id
to
> >> >> personally identifiable information in order to provide you with
> >> >> products, services, and software that you're entitled to and to
provide
> >> >> you with relevant information. You are responsible for any
> >> >> telecommunications or other connectivity charges incurred through
use
> >of
> >> >> the Software.
> >> >>
> >> >> b)  Cookies: The Software also allows the use of cookies, similar to
an
> >> >> Internet browser.  This allows any website to set cookies for you
when
> >> >> you view any of the website's content through the Software, unless
you
> >> >> have disabled cookies. If you have disabled cookies, you may be
asked
> >to
> >> >> login each time you access premium software features and services
and
> >> >> some Real services may not function properly. To learn more, visit
the
> >> >> RealNetworks Privacy Policy link on our website at
> >> >> http://www.realnetworks.com/company/privacy/index.html.
> >> >>
> >> >> c)  AutoUpdate: The RealPlayer, using AutoUpdate, automatically
> >> >> communicates with RN's servers on the Internet to check for updates
to
> >> >> RN's and RN partner's software, such as bug fixes, patches, enhanced
> >> >> functions, missing plug-ins and new versions. AutoUpdate also has
the
> >> >> capability to run independently of RealPlayer to perform background
> >> >> update checks. RN may download updates during the background checks,
> >> >> when RealPlayer automatically communicates with RN's servers, when
you
> >> >> manually check for updates, or when RealPlayer detects a file it
does
> >> >> not support. AutoUpdate sends information about installed
RealNetworks'
> >> >> products and components to the servers to determine upgrade
> >> >> availability. If you prefer to be notified when an auto-update is
> >> >> performed, follow these steps: On the Tools menu, select
Preferences,
> >> >> AutoUpdate, and then de-select "Automatically download and install
> >> >> software updates."
> >> >>
> >> >> d)  Message Center: The RealPlayer software, using Message Center,
> >> >> automatically communicates with RN's servers to check for new
important
> >> >> messages, including software updates and service bulletins.  Message
> >> >> Center can also run independently of RealPlayer to perform
background
> >> >> message checks. Message Center sends information about installed
> >> >> RealNetworks' products and components to the servers to determine
> >> >> relevant software update messages. Message Center is set by default
to
> >> >> check for messages once or twice a week and to display the headline
> >> >> portion of such messages when they arrive.  You can change the way
> >> >> Message Center displays messages and the frequency with which it
checks
> >> >> for new ones by following these steps: on the View menu, select
> >'Message
> >> >> Center', then within Message Center, select 'Options', select
> >> >> 'Preferences' and set your desired preferences. If you sign up for
> >> >> message topics that necessitate a greater frequency than you
previously
> >> >> selected, your frequency setting may be adjusted to accommodate your
> >> >> topic choices.
> >> >>
> >> >> e)  Secure Content Consumption: The RealPlayer client may be
required
> >to
> >> >> send statistical data to servers regarding the consumption by an end
> >> >> user of content secured using the digital rights management
technology
> >> >> contained in this Software to protect the integrity of the content
> >> >> ("Secure Content"). This communication serves to enable the content
> >> >> provider to calculate usage-based royalty amounts needing to be paid
to
> >> >> owners of such Secure Content ("Secure Content Owners").
> >> >>
> >> >>  /m
> >> >
> >

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