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Skriven 2005-11-21 19:52:12 av JOHNJWILSON (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av JOHN MASSEY
Ärende: 'exit strategy' from reality
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-> "And we won't come back
-> Till it's over
-> Over there!"
->
It ain't ever going to be over, over there.

Rumsfeld talks in terms of a decade.

Yhe terrible mis-managment by Bremmer...

indicate no post 'war' fighting strategy...

It's an ad hoc, plan as you go thing now...


->"The key issue is no longer WMD or even the role of the U.N. The
-> central issue is America's credibility and will to prevail.'' That's Goh
-> Chok Tong speaking in Washington last year. Unfortunately, he's not a
U.S.
-> senator, but the prime minister of Singapore, and thus ineligible to
run, on
-> the grounds that he's not a citizen of Blowhardistan.

:-)


-> 
->  What does the Senate's revolting amendment tell America's enemies
(Zarqawi)
-> and "friends" (Chirac) about her will to prevail?

It will not lessen OR incease their hatred of us...


-> Any great power -- never mind the preeminent power of the age -- should
be
-> engaged with the world....

'Old Europe' inclused?

 That means, among other things, that it has a
-> presence in those parts of the globe that are critical to its interest.
->
This is true and I think a main reason for the war on an abstract verb...
 
...slightly less contemptible...class of critic has sneered
-> that the administration never had any plans for postwar Iraq, hadn't a
clue
-> what it was getting into, couldn't tell the difference between a Sunni
and a
-> Shia and a Kurd if they were painted different colors...

That's pretty good :-)

if there's anything to this feeble
-> second-guessing, it's that the U.S. government simply didn't know enough
-> about Iraq -- and, in a crude sense, they're right. U.S. taxpayers would
be
-> justified, for example, in feeling they're not getting their $44 billion
-> worth from the intelligence community.
->
It's worse than that Wolfowitz convinced others that he DID know
the mind-set of the  Iraqis...

If a culpret HAS to be chosen, I'll choose Wolfowitz, a devote
od Strauss...

-> But the only way to know the country is to be there on the ground, in
some
-> form or other...

This may well be true, but not what was propounded...

 I'm all for "Iraqification" -- though those Democrats
-> urgently demanding everything be done by the locals will be the first to
-> shriek in horror once the Iraqis start serious score-settling with the
-> foreign insurgents...

I believe the cibil war has already started...


 But, even with full-scale Iraqification, America would
-> be grossly irresponsible if not clinically insane not to maintain some
sort
-> of small residual military presence somewhere in the western desert...

A Murfa(sP) proposal...

.
-> Sorry, but that's part of the deal of being the world's hyperpower...

It's not the way to maintain it. I fear we are goin to influence the world
less and less...

Hey, wanna buy a SUV? China is going to sell 'em for HALF what you
would hafta pay now...

If you're worried about
-> the ''cost,'' stop garrisoning your wealthiest allies -- Germany, Japan
et
-> al. -- and thereby absolving them from stepping up to the traditional
-> responsibilities of nationhood...

You mean using our hyperpower to influence them?

-> One expects nothing from the Democrats...

And more from the GOP, fiscal responsibility for one thing.
Oh well 'deficits don't matter' sez our pro-torture Vice President.

->...what do Rockefeller and Reid and Kerry believe deep
-> down?

Dererp down? Hell I don't even know what YOU believe 'deep down' although
your post
is pretty clear :-)


-> question my patriotism?", well, yes, I am questioning your patriotism --
-> because you're failing to meet the challenge of the times...

I don't question anyones patriotism. I think that is the low point in your
post.


 Thanks to you,
-> Iraq is a quagmire

Thanks to who? Now you continue the stretch.



-> ...to grasp the profound and rapid changes already under way. This
Senate is
-> making the same fatal error. I'd advocate throwing the bums out if there
-> were any alternative bums to throw in...

Hey, I'm back in agreement mode! :-)

 
-> (c) Mark Steyn, 2005
-> Copyright (c) Mark Steyn, 2005
->
Damn! I thought it was YOU I was writing to.
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