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Text 19047, 68 rader
Skriven 2006-04-18 06:23:20 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 19038 av Bart Verhaeghe (2:292/907.1)
Ärende: Chief Criminal
======================
Bart Verhaeghe -> BOB SAKOWSKI wrote:
 BS>> The only anti-american here is the one who would try to restrict that
 BS>> which is guaranteed by our Constitution, namely the Freedom of Speech.

 BS>> You see Bart, Stan Hardegree is but one in a long line of those who
 BV> would
 BS>> stifle any and all criticism of Dear Leader, that steaming pile of
 BS>> excrement known as George W. Bush.

 BS>> In short, Stan Hardegree is an idiot.

 BS>> The Consumate Corruptables, aka the conservative wing of the
 BV> Republican
 BS>> Party.

Not being an American, perhaps you don't know that our 1st Amendment guarantee
of freedom of speech is for political discourse only.  Calling the President
names is NOT political speech - its just childish.


 BV>  However,
 BV>  I must say that bush is indeed corrupt.

And just what do you base that on?  Corruption means he is engaging in
activities illegally and/or illicitly to personal gain.  George Bush has never
done anything even remotely like that.  You have a problem with policy, and
that is certainly a legitimate area to discuss, but it sure as hell has nothing
to do with corruption.

 BV>  But yes what will we as ordinary people to do?
 BV>  Unfortunately nothing thinks I because we do not have authorisation.
 BV>  Perhaps participate our government,
 BV>  however, to power far tone, of bush but certainly not the average
 BV> European is agreed,
 BV>  with, what they do and what they intend. Because we as Europeans
 BV> themselves freedom,
 BV>  of opinion wants expression, and as from you here something dares say
 BV> that does not
 BV>  go then is you also, the dupe of or an  other law. Discrimination or
 BV> your a colour hater.
 BV>  Because you do not end up for a certain opinion also already concern
 BV> it, colour or concerning race.

I also have to say that as a European, you are entitled to whatever opinion you
wish to hold.  But, when it comes to American domestic policy, American law,
and American politics you don't have a clue, and what's more your opinion is
irrelevant.  There are many things that we take for granted here because we are
born with them gauranteed to us by our Constitution.  While you may have
similar rights in some of those areas, most of them are granted to you by
legislative fiat which means they can be rescinded at any time.  Our system
grants rights based on our inherent rights as Americans - we are born with them
- and those rights cannot be taken away by passing a law.

I hear a lot of European politicians squawking about what we do in Iraq, and
what our policy toward Iran, or North Korea, is or might be.  It is largely due
to European failures that we have had to deal with Iraq in the first place, and
no doubt will end up dealing with Iran.  You Europeans apparently haven't
learned yet that you can't deal with terrorists - at any level - because they
will always turn on you sooner or later.

Anarchists and terrorists have started two world wars in your backyards, and
you have yet to learn that appeasement only brings subjagation. Now, you're
playing the same game again with Iraq and Iran.  Is it going to take a
terrorist nuke up somebody's backside to convince you that the US is not the
bad guy?

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