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Text 21500, 78 rader
Skriven 2006-08-01 07:17:59 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 21485 av Gary Braswell (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Good read
=================
Gary Braswell -> John Hull wrote:
 GB> John Hull -> Gary Braswell wrote:>  GB> and allowing them to build
 GB> defenses?

 GB>>> If the Israelis were really being indiscriminate, there would be
 GB> 5,000
 GB>>> dead, with tends of thousands wounded and thousands of kids dead.

 JH>> What Bob will never admit, either, is that the UN people at that
 GB> outpost
 JH>> admitted that they saw Hezbollah firing rockets right next to their
 JH>> position.  If they had an ounce of sense they would've gotten the hell
 JH>> out of there.  They had to know that IDF forces would respond with
 GB> force.

 GB> You are correct. I think it was either an Aussie or Canadian at the UN
 GB> outpost who said Hez was about 30 yards from them firing.

 GB> However, the UN force being military, had orders to stay. They could not
 GB> simply leave.


 JH>> Everybody is damn worried about the Lebanese civilians, and I want to
 JH>> know why?  They get advance notice of where Israel is going to attack,
 JH>> and then complain when there are casualties among civilians.  In

 GB> I worry about any innocents being killed, but wondered why so many were
 GB> getting killed when they were getting advanced notice and did my own
 GB> research.

 GB> Unfortunately its a by-product of what Israel had to do to stop resupply
 GB> of Hez. They only transportation left are taxis that charge around $1000
 GB> to get people out. Many Lebanese were too poor to own cars of their own.
 GB> They cannot leave by boat since the Israelis have a blockade going. They
 GB> cannot leave by air since the airport is shutdown. If they leave by foot
 GB> they risk getting hit as they travel though places already under attack
 GB> by Israel.

 GB> Then of course there are those who simply refuse to leave their homes
 GB> out of pride, not to mention those families who have elderly members who
 GB> simply cannot go by foot.

From what western media is showing (and allowing for their pro-Lebanese slant),
it looks to me like the majority of them are staying put until they are
literally forced to leave by the bombs and shelling.  Makes it kind of tough to
evac when you wait until you have to dodge the damn ordnance.


 GB> Its a mess.

 JH>> addition, its hard to feel sorry for them when something like 70% of
 JH>> them support Hezbollah, even if they aren't actually involved in the

 GB> I know, but the fact is they are being brainwashed by Hez TV that shows
 GB> only one side of the conflict. They have no idea of the real truth.


Oh, please.  They're dancing in the streets at rallies calling for the
destruction of Israel.  They f*ckin' muslim extremists.  They've got access to
outside news sources via newspapers, TV, and the internet.  It may not be up to
the level of ours, but they can get enough of a different take on things to
know that the entire rest of the world is against Hezbollah.  If they weren't
fanatics, that would give them pause, don't you think?

 JH>> fighting.  Israel should start at the southern border with boots on
 GB> the
 JH>> ground and tank and close air support, and start marching north and
 GB> not
 JH>> stop until they reach the northern end of Lebanon.

 GB> It would certainly be more effective than what they are doing now.

Warn 'em 8 hours in advance that they're coming, and once it starts they will
kill anything that moves and raze it to the ground.  Pull the Israeli version
of Sherman's March to the Sea through Georgia.

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