Text 23592, 89 rader
Skriven 2006-10-06 05:39:00 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 23569 av Gary Braswell (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Habeas Corpus
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Gary Braswell -> John Hull wrote:
 GB> John Hull -> Gary Braswell wrote:
 JH>> Gary Braswell -> Stan Hardegree wrote:
 GB>>> Stan Hardegree -> MIMI GALLANDT wrote:
 VH>>>>> How did the Israelis stop it?  They armed the teachers.

 SH>>>>> Something I have editorialized for over the years.

 MG>>>>> I agree with both of you that would solve the problem, but I stand
 SH>>>> by my
 MG>>>>> comment that the moonbats will never allow it.

 SH>>>> Some of my readers went nuts in opposition to the idea.  One of my
 JH>> own
 SH>>>> columnists wrote a piece in direct opposition to the idea.  Funny
 GB>>> thing is
 SH>>>> that none of them were teachers.

 GB>>> Since there is compulsory service in Israel, I would imagine most
 JH>> of the
 GB>>> armed teachers had experience with weapons.

 GB>>> I know many teachers I would not want armed.

 GB>>> I have asked several if they would want to be armed in school and
 GB> they
 GB>>> all said no, including one lady who knows how to shoot and is getting
 GB>>> her concealed license, along with her husband, soon. Her husband is a
 GB>>> prof at a local university and he probably headed off an incident
 JH>> there.
 GB>>> He heard about a student the others nicknamed "AK" and his initials
 JH>> were
 GB>>> not AK. He heard the student in his class talk about getting an AK
 GB> and
 GB>>> shooting several teachers. He reported it. He is getting mental
 GB>>> assistance now. He was trying to buy an AK.

 GB>>> I realize its anecdotal.

 GB>>> I think a more realistic solution is a trained and armed security
 JH>> force.
 GB>>> Of course that would cost money. But then so would training and
 GB> arming
 GB>>> teachers.

 GB>>> I think part of the blame lies at the increasing tabloid nature of
 GB> the
 GB>>> media, especially cable news which is hungry for filler. Obviously
 GB> the
 GB>>> news has to cover these events, but there does not have to be
 GB>>> wall-to-wall, days of coverage of every nuance and rumor with full
 GB>>> camera coverage.

 GB>>> It like live broadcast porn for these types.

 GB>>> And to be honest, few of these events take place compared to how many
 GB>>> schools are open and have classes each day.

 JH>> It goes far beyond the media, Gary.  A basic fundamental truth is that

 GB> As I said, the media is part of the blame.

 JH>> people who are armed and well versed in the use of arms do not make
 GB> good
 JH>> subjects for those who want everybody to depend on the government for
 JH>> everything from cradle to grave.  You can't intimidate people into
 GB> doing
 JH>> what you want them to do when they have the means to defend themselves
 JH>> and to say no.  The anti-gunners have been trying to gain power over
 JH>> people ever since they enacted laws in New York to keep the poor
 JH>> immigrants from being able to stand up to the corrupt landlords and
 JH>> politicians.  Gun control, welfare, and taxes are the three legs of
 GB> the
 JH>> liberal triad, and they will do and say anything to press those goals.

 GB> The wife and husband I mention above who have guns and are getting their
 GB> conceal carry permits are both liberal.

 GB> The sweeping generalizations of liberals on this echo are only rivaled
 GB> by the sweeping generalizations of conservatives.

I didn't make any sweeping generalizations.  The vast majority of anti-gun
types are liberal.  That is a fact, just like the Sullivan laws in New York
that I mentioned.  So are the legs of the triad a fact.  I know some liberals
who are pro-gun just like those you mentioned, but they are few in number when
taken as part of the whole.

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