Text 23609, 110 rader
Skriven 2006-10-06 17:04:47 av Gary Braswell (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 23593 av John Hull (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: FoleyGate
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John Hull -> Gary Braswell wrote:
 JH> Gary Braswell -> John Massey wrote:
 GB>> John Massey -> John Hull wrote:

 JM>>> "John Hull -> All" <1:379/1.99> wrote in message
 JM>>> news:22192$POLITICS@JamNNTPd...
 JH>>>> Much has been made the last couple of days about the fall from
 JM>>> grace of
 JH>>>> Rep. Foley from Florida.  The liberals (here, and in the media,
 JH> etc.)
 JH>>>> are screaming bloody murder about how it's all Denny Hastert's
 JM>>> fault for
 JH>>>> not doing more to corral Foley.  Let's remember that Hastert was the
 JH>>>> first to call for a complete FBI investigation of everybody,
 GB>> including
 JM>>> himself.

 JH>>>> First of all, based on everything I've heard so far (from all
 JH> sides),
 JH>>>> Foley did nothing overt enough to warrant arrest

 JM>>> Sorry John, They did it to just isn't good enough.
 JM>>> I have to agree with what Boortz had to say on this.


 JM>>> Essentially we have learned thus far that some of Foley's actions
 GB>> were an
 JM>>> open secret on the Hill.  We've also learned that Foley actually
 GB>> wanted to
 JM>>> retire, but the House Republican Leadership, eager to hang on to
 GB>> power,
 JM>>> convinced him to stay and run again.

 JM>>> Nice going, guys. You knew he was a gay man preying on male pages
 GB>> .. and
 JM>>> you
 JM>>> urge him to stay in the race?  Holding on to power in Washington is
 GB>> that
 JM>>> important to you?

 JM>>> Now we're finding out that Mark Foley actually tried to visit the
 GB>> dorm that
 JM>>> the House Pages sleep in.  The story is that Foley showed up drunk
 GB>> at the
 JM>>> dorm some time back and that the Capitol Police stopped him from
 GB>> entering.
 JM>>> It's not known how long ago this was or how many times Foley showed
 GB>> up.
 JM>>> Are we expected to believe that the Republican leadership didn't
 GB>> know of
 JM>>> Foley's attempts to get into the dorm?  Come on!  Are you going to
 GB>> believe
 JM>>> that?  And by the way ... ditto for the Democrats, but the
 GB>> difference is
 JM>>> that Democrats would eventually use the information to damage
 GB>> Republicans.
 JM>>> Republicans could have used the information to clean their house,
 GB>> protect
 JM>>> the pages and themselves .. but they did not do it.
 JM>>> What are we going to find out next?  We know that Foley's computers
 GB>> and
 JM>>> e-mails are being examined further...expect an avalanche of bad
 GB>> publicity.

 JM>>> All of this is bad news for the Republicans, whose leadership
 GB>> couldn't have
 JM>>> handled this more badly.  We now know that Foley was chatting up
 GB>> pages as
 JM>>> far back as the mid-nineties....how long before we find out that it
 GB>> was
 JM>>> more
 JM>>> than just talk?  Are we supposed to believe that Foley never once
 GB>> in the
 JM>>> last several years did anything more than send dirty instant
 GB>> messages and
 JM>>> naughty e-mails?  Hopefully, but you never know.

 JM>>> Just when you think it can't get any worse...it does.  Next Tuesday
 JM>>> makes it
 JM>>> four weeks until Election Day, and with each passing scandal, Nancy
 GB>> Pelosi
 JM>>> is gearing up to receive her Speaker's gavel.  If that happens, the
 JM>>> Republicans will have done it to themselves.

 GB>> According to Fox News, one of the IM's details Foley and a
 JH> page(they did
 GB>> not say if it was a current or former one, or the age) masturbating
 GB>> together while exchanging IMs.

 GB>> If so and the page was a minor, in some states that is a crime. I
 JH> don't
 GB>> know about in DC.

 JH> The age of consent in DC is 16 according to news reports on CBS Radio.
 JH> In any case, don't try to tell me that page is innocent.  He knew what
 JH> was going on.  The real question here is who orchestrated this long
 JH> range plan to attack the GOP?  That doesn't excuse Foley, but this whole
 JH> fiasco is nothing short of election tampering.

If indeed the page was under 16, its the predator not the kid who is at fault
and broke the law John. Don't try to put it back on the kid. We don't need any
apologists for pervs.

The real question is how could this have gone on for so long and no one do
anything about it?

The politics of it all is totally secondary.

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