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Skriven 2006-11-25 01:09:12 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
  Kommentar till text 25435 av Mimi Gallandt (1:123/789.0)
Ärende: Election
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Mimi Gallandt -> Ed Hulett wrote:

 MG>>>>> Several north western cities are built like that. Great Falls, MT
 EH>>>> is and
 MG>>>>> I think Seattle is, too.

 EH>>>> The planners of Seattle should never have built Seattle where it is.
 EH>>>> After Seattle had been established, they decided to make it
 MG> easier to
 EH>>>> navigate the extreme hills by removing them and using the tons of
 EH>> dirt
 EH>>>> to fill in the tidal area south of Pioneer Square. The new sports
 EH>>>> stadiums are built on that man-made land.

 MG>>> Filled in land is never a good thing. I hope you're not a fan of
 MG>>> whatever teams play in those stadiums.

 EH>> Not to worry, I'm not that big a sports fan in the first place.

 MG> Baruch Hashem!

Indeed.

 MG>>> Look to San Francisco's 1989
 MG>>> quake, the Marina district was built on the rubble dump site from the
 MG>>> 1906 quake; the ground shook the Marina liquefied. Don't tell me they
 MG>>> don't have earthquakes in Seattle, there are earthquakes everywhere!

 EH>> There is a major fault in the Puget Sound area. We have as many, if
 MG> not
 EH>> more quakes than California. We also have 3 dormant and one
 MG> semi-dormant
 EH>> volcanoes in the area.

 EH>> Liquifaction is a major problem with man-made land next to water.
 MG> Back a
 EH>> few years ago there was a 7+ quake here (the epicenter was about 10
 EH>> miles south of here) and a lot of the damage was in Seattle (40 miles
 EH>> north of here). Most of that damage was in that area. There is a
 EH>> double-decker freeway (sound familiar?) across the man-made land.
 MG> There
 EH>> was some structural damage to that freeway. They are now talking about
 EH>> replacing that part of the highway (US 99). The Seattle mayor wants a
 EH>> tunnel.

 MG> If you ever find yourself in San Diego for a few days don't stay at the
 MG> Marriott at the Embarcadero (it's on filled land). As to tunnels, not
 MG> being an engineer I was sure that the tunnel (tube really) that the BART
 MG> train passes through to get from Oakland to San Francisco would be
 MG> demolished if a big one hit. It rode out the 1989 quake easily.

I don't foresee any visit to San Diego, but I'll remember not to stay at the
Embarcadero Marriott if I do.

 MG>>>>> What I like about the concept of planned
 MG>>>>> communities is that they don't just build willy-nilly like LA is.
 EH>> You
 MG>>>>> may have figured this out by now; I hate LA! As far as I'm
 MG> concerned
 MG>>>>> there are only two places in LA that are worth visiting; Venice and
 MG>>>>> Hollywood blvd. I'm a nut for architecture and both of those places
 EH>>>> have
 MG>>>>> some great buildings and they've refurbished the Egyptian! It's a
 EH>>>> grand
 MG>>>>> old theater built by Sid Grauman (he of Grauman's Chinese) in the
 EH>> day
 MG>>>>> when they were movie palaces. Venice once had actual canals (hence
 MG>>> the
 MG>>>>> name) and is stock full of adorable little cottages. I wish I could
 EH>>>> have
 MG>>>>> seen it at the turn of the 20th century, I've seen pictures, but
 EH>> it's
 MG>>>>> just not the same.

 EH>>>> Some of those turn-of-the-century buildings are interesting.

 MG>>> Hollywood has some really crazy stuff, but then again they've torn
 EH>> down
 MG>>> some of the best stuff. There was a court shaped complex built by a
 MG>>> silent movie star (I can't remember her name, but if you Google the
 EH>> name
 MG>>>  of this complex you'll find loads of information on it. The place
 MG> was
 MG>>> called the Garden of Allah (it had nothing to do with Arabs or
 EH>> Muslims).
 MG>>> I would have loved to see that place before they tore it down and
 EH>> turned
 MG>>> the land into a strip mall. Back in the 30s the fad was apartment
 EH>> hotels
 MG>>> on Hollywood blvd, I would have liked to see the insides of the
 MG>>> Hollywood Roosevelt (for example) before they chopped up the
 EH>> apartments
 MG>>> and turned it into a skid row SRO. :(

 EH>> You know what they say about progress... :-)

 MG> I know that the opposite of pro is con ergo the opposite of progress is
 MG> congress. :)

Heh heh... well, that isn't exactly what I was getting at. :-)

Ed

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