Text 28167, 52 rader
Skriven 2007-04-10 05:47:42 av Bob Ackley (1:2905/3)
     Kommentar till en text av Alan Hess
Ärende: Marines
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Replying to a message of Alan Hess to John Hull:

 AH> Whilst masticating on <Apr 07 07>, John Hull (1:123/789)
 AH> wrote to Alan Hess:

 VH>>>> This, of course, was in support of putting the Niesi in camps 
 VH>>>> -- and the sheer racism was breath-taking.

 AH>>> Why should anti-Japanese racism, and support for it, come as a 
 AH>>> surprise from a society that was already racist against blacks, 
 AH>>> as well as anti-Jewish and anti-almost everyone not white and 
 AH>>> Christian, and even some who were (like the Irish?)  At least 
 AH>>> there was a war against Japan that was the rationale for that 
 AH>>> racism, wrong as it was to paint all Japanese-Americans as 
 AH>>> enemies of the nation.  What was the rationale for people like 
 AH>>> Father Coughlin and those that listened to and supported him to 
 AH>>> hate Jews?  What was the rationale that made the citizenry 
 AH>>> (voters) absolutely against raising annual immigration quotas to 
 AH>>> allow more people fleeing Hitler, many of whom would have been 
 AH>>> Jewish, to enter this country (I don't remember the exact number, 
 AH>>> but less than 150,000 Jews entered the U.S. between 1933 and  1945,
 AH>>> despite the fact that his plans for Jews was no secret?   FDR would
 AH>>> have committed suicide had he tried to allow more Jews  to
 AH>>> immigrate here - as I well know, he couldn't even allow the  less
 AH>>> than 1,000 Jews on the St. Louis in.)  What was the reason  to hate
 AH>>> blacks, and do such things as bar blacks and Jews from certain
 AH>>> neighborhoods?  *adh*

 JH>> Why don't you quit crying.  There isn't a place in the world that 
 JH>> isn't racist.  We're hardly unique in that respect.

 AH> I'm not crying - just stating reality.  Vern shouldn't have been
 AH> surprised by the racism in Geisel's cartoons, considering the society
 AH> he lived in.

 JH>> The gov't overreacted with the Nicei, but there was a lot of 
 JH>> circumstantial evidence that caused that reaction.  Most of those 
 JH>> people belonged to various Japanese patriotic organizations that 
 JH>> supported the Japanese government.  Most of them did so out of 
 JH>> respect to their ancestors and to tradition, but we didn't 
 JH>> understand that at the time. But given that they were as  integrated
 JH>> into our society as they were, it wouldn't have been  prudent to NOT
 JH>> pay close attention to them at least initially.

 AH> There's a difference between prudence and locking them all up.   

IIRC there were far more German-Americans involved in the 'Bund' in this
country, both in raw numbers and as a percentage of the group.  None of
them were incarcerated AFAIK, at least not in any significant numbers.

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