Text 28979, 110 rader
Skriven 2007-05-31 14:40:32 av Alan Hess
     Kommentar till en text av Jeff Binkley
Ärende: Terrorism
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Whilst masticating on <May 30 07>, Jeff Binkley (1:226/600)
wrote to All:

JB> But according to John Edwards, the war on terror is just a bumper 
JB> sticker slogan...

Because that's what it is, like the War on <most> Drugs.  Terrorism is a tactic
- a War on Terror is like a War on Dogfights.  But it sounds good.  Israel has
been fighting against terrorist tactics since 1948, and even they know that
they'll never be able to beat it completely unless the underlying rationale for
the terrorism changes, and that won't happen (Israel will continue to exist,
Jews will live there, and Islamists will want them gone.  Until/unless
non-Islamists get tired of their religion being misused to promote hatred and
killing of non-Muslims, and the Islamists are isolated and looked down upon by
their society, Islamic terrorism against Israel and non-Muslim countries
everywhere will continue.)  The War on Terror is not something that can be won
the way we beat the Nazis and the Japanese, because we're not fighting against
a government that can be overthrown - we're fighting against fundamentalist
members of a religion that is world wide.  We have to protect ourselves and our
assets as best we can (and we're still doing a lousy job of that, despite some
plots having been foiled, as our port and rail security, among other things,
remains poor.)

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JB> 
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JB> Qaeda warns of attacks 'worse than 9/11'  

JB> May 30 06:26 AM US/Eastern

JB> An American member of Al-Qaeda warned in an Internet video that 
JB> US President George W. Bush should withdraw all his troops from 
JB> Muslim land or face attacks worse than September 11. 

People don't remember that the primary rationale for 9/11 expressed by al Qaeda
was the presence of U.S. military bases in Saudi Arabia, home of Islam's two
holiest cities, Mecca and Medina (they only added Israel-Palestinian situation
later, after almost the entire world, save for Palestinians and a few others,
denounced the 9/11 attacks on, and using, civilians, which is why we had almost
worldwide support for attacking the Taliban after it refused to turn over bin
Laden and friends.  Unfortunately, Bush squandered that support when he began
his war of choice against Saddam, and the Taliban remains in existence and
resurgent because Bush focused our attention on Iraq rather than finish the job
in Afghanistan.)  There was no excuse for them to attack civilians - they could
have attacked the bases whose presence bothered them, as our Marine barracks in
Lebanon were (those are military targets) - and it was the fact that the World
Trade Center was a civilian target that had world opinion on our side.

I have no doubt there will be future attacks, as Islamism isn't going away
(some of the blame for that falls on the non-Islamist Muslims, who should be
speaking out more against the Islamists, and whose leaders should be issuing
fatwas of their own against al Qaeda and other Muslim terrorist groups.)  Even
if our security is greatly improved, as it should be, some plots will
unfortunately succeed.  Even tiny Israel, which could be completely walled in
and has checkpoints, with more expertise than anyone, can't stop them all,
especially home grown plots.

JB> Gadahn -- sporting a headress, glasses and long beard -- said 
JB> Bush had "embroiled his nation in a series of unwinable and 
JB> bloody conflicts in the Islamic world." 

JB> He also called on the United States to cease support for the 
JB> "bastard state of Israel" and the "56-plus apostate regimes of 
JB> the Muslim world" and to free all Muslims from its prisons. 

Fat chance.

Ironically, Iraq was one of those "apostate regimes" until we did al Qaeda a
favor by deposing Saddam, which they couldn't have done themselves.  Now, even
if the Iraqi government we created survives, their Constitution recognizes
Sharia law as supreme, which doesn't seem to be something that will lead to a
secular democratic republic like ours.  And who knows what happens if one or
the other (Shiite or Sunni) wins the civil war.  Joe Biden is right - Iraq
should be divided into three separate states - Shiite, Sunni, Kurdish - under a
central government with oil revenue shared between the states.  Iraq, like many
countries in the Middle East, was created with artificial boundaries, so
creating three separate enclaves inside Iraq wouldn't be setting a precedent
for the region.  The Turkish government, however, does not want a Kurdistan,
either as a state or as an indepent state, because there are many Kurds in
Turkey (apparently, there is very little Kurdish terrorism against civilians,
and none against Jews, so world opinion isn't on the Kurds' side.)

JB> "We don't negotiate with war criminals and baby killers like you. 
JB> No, these are legitimate demands which must be met," he said. 

He can talk all he wants.  Perhaps we can give him a nice pork hot dog for
dinner in jail.

JB> Born in 1978, Gadahn -- also known Azzam al-Amriki and Azzam the 
JB> American -- is a native of southern California and has appeared 
JB> in several videotapes for Al-Qaeda since 2004. 

JB> His conversion to Islam came after he began attending the Islamic 
JB> Centre of Orange County in California, where he is believed to 
JB> have come under the influence of two foreign-born Islamic radicals. 

We seem to have a bunch of radical mosques in the U.S., many, if not most,
supported by our "ally," the Wahhabist government of Saudi Arabia.

JB> Gadahn's reference to Virginia Tech was to the shooting of 32 
JB> people at the university by Korean-born gunman Cho Seung-hui who 
JB> then turned the gun on himself.

Damn shame these suicide killers don't kill themselves first at home, then go
on their "mission."  :-(

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