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Skriven 2004-10-27 16:51:00 av LEE LOFASO (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av FRANK SCHEIDT
Ärende: Edwards               1/2
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Hello Frank,

>LL>Kerry's remark during the presidential debate about Cheney's
>LL>daughter

>SD>As an aside, is it me or has this election been the nastiest
>SD>(concerning mudslinging, finger-pointing accusations) in recent
>SD>memory?

>LL>You'd have to go back to the presidential election between Thomas
>LL>Jefferson and John Adams to find one as mean and nasty as this
>LL>one. :)

>FS>No need to go back that far, Lee.  Any election involving a
>FS>Democrat candidate has included mud-throwing by the Democrats.

>LL>Neither Adams nor Jefferson were Democrats.

>JH>Jefferson was not a Democrat?

>LL>Little "d".  Not big "D".

>JH>I'm sure that would be news to Mr. Jefferson were he alive today.  He
>JH>sure as hell wasn't a Whig, the only other major pa in existence at
>JH>the time.

>LL>George Washington was no party.
>LL>Thomas Jefferson was Democrat Republican.
>LL>John Adams was Whig.

FS>George Washington *also* wore a wig.

And had false teeth.  But what a terrible portrait of George on
the $1 bill!  Certainly the artist could have done a better job.
Washington is shown wearing a wooden set of dentures that do not
fit well.  But Washington had other sets of dentures, some made
of ivory, that fit very well.  We should start a letter-writing
campaign to the Department of Treasury to get a new portrait
of George Washington put on the $1 bill.  A portrait that depicts
Washington as the strikingly good-looking man he was.

>LL>Andrew Jackson is regarded as being the first Democrat president.

>JH>Not in any history of the presidency I've ever seen.

>LL>The Democratic Party was not in existence when Thomas Jefferson was
>LL>president.

>LL>Abraham Lincoln is regarded as being the first Republican
>LL>president.

>JH>Now that statement is correct.

>LL>Of course it is.

FS>"Of course"???  Lee, maybe 1% of your statements are factual
FS>hence saying "of course it is" is a gross exaggeration ...
FS>[sigh] ... and I'm merely assuming it is as *high* as 1% ...

Indeed.  :)

>JH>Lincoln was the first candidate to run under the new party, which
>JH>replaced the Whig Party in the 1850's.

>LL>Lincoln was the first *presidential* candidate who won as a
>LL>Republican. The Republican Party had been formed a few years prior to
>LL>Lincoln's election.  In the 1856 presidential election, the Republican
>LL>candidate did not fare well.  But in the 1860 presidential election,
>LL>the Democrats split their vote thus enabling Lincoln to win as the
>LL>Republican.

FS>Lincoln won because the voters anticipated the likely
FS>top-quality Republican presidents such as Ronald Wilson Reagan
FS>and George W. Bush ...

Ronald Wilson Reagan was a Democrat for decades...

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