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Text 4837, 134 rader
Skriven 2004-11-11 12:04:13 av John Hull (1:379/1.99)
   Kommentar till text 4813 av Steve Asher (3:800/432.0)
Ärende: live and let live?
==========================
Take your religious garbage somewhere else, will you?


11 Nov 04 20:27, Steve Asher wrote to Alan Hess:

 SA> Mulling over Alan Hess to all 10 Nov 2004

 AH>> I agree with this columnist's opinion.  What do you think?
 AH>> ********

 AH>> http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.chapman09nov0
 AH>> 9 ,1,2199793.  story?coll=bal-oped-headlines
 AH>> Our No. 1 moral value is still 'live and let live'

 AH>> By Steve Chapman

 AH>> November 9, 2004

 AH>> CHICAGO - Across the political spectrum, experts agree that the
 AH>> election of 2004 represents a sharp swing toward old-fashioned
 AH>> Christian values, which conservatives cheer and liberals lament.

 SA> I think it represents a rejection of salvation and eternal life 
 SA> through
 SA> Jesus Christ in favour of "moral law", "natural law", "universal 
 SA> law", or
 SA> "noachide law".

 AH>> "I have long advocated a stronger tie between politics and the
 AH>> virtues," announced veteran conservative moralist Bill Bennett the
 AH>> day after the election. "Last night it was evident that the
 AH>> American people agree." James Dobson, founder of Focus on the
 AH>> Family, said that because of the prayers of Christians, "God has
 AH>> given us a reprieve" - but a brief one that the president must use
 AH>> to implement a moral agenda.

 SA> I wonder what "moral agenda" James Dobson has in mind? Could his 
 SA> "moral
 SA> agenda" be to restore the observance of "moral law"? Could he 
 SA> believe
 SA> that the "Moral Law" is the law of the universe?

 SA> Let's google it, just a little bit....

 SA> Bingo!

 SA> ==================================================================
 SA> =========
 SA> WHAT DO JAMES DOBSON, THE CABBALLA, AND THE NEW WORLD ORDER HAVE 
 SA> IN COMMON?

 SA> (snip)

 SA> On March 4, Christian radio stations nationwide aired an address 
 SA> to
 SA> the Council for National Policy by James Dobson, President of 
 SA> Focus on
 SA> the Family. Expressing his determination to do whatever is 
 SA> necessary
 SA> to restore the observance of "moral law," Dr. Dobson reasoned 
 SA> that,
 SA> since God created Wisdom before He created anything else, the 
 SA> Moral
 SA> Law is the law of the Universe. The identical appeal for nations 
 SA> to be
 SA> governed by "natural law" and "moral law" has historically been 
 SA> made
 SA> by the Orders of Freemasonry.

 SA> (snip)

 SA> SO: Balaam's Ass - http://www.balaams-ass.com/journal/prophecy/new
 SA> law.htm
 SA> ==================================================================
 SA> ========

 AH>> Liberal Northwestern University Professor Garry Wills is afraid
 AH>> they're right in thinking we want a crusade to clean up our 
 AH>> morals. Americans, he writes, have come to resemble our extremist 
 AH>> Muslim enemies, with our "fundamentalist zeal, a rage at 
 AH>> secularity, religious intolerance, fear of and hatred for 
 AH>> modernity." 

 SA> That is what a rejection of Jesus Christ in favour of Noachide 
 SA> Laws
 SA> will lead to.

 AH>> Oh, please. Americans don't want the government policing 
 AH>> individual morality any more than they want the NFL to switch to 
 AH>> touch football. America is a "live and let live" country, and it's 
 AH>> only growing more so.

 SA> Maybe America would be better if the "NFL" actually -kicked- the 
 SA> ball,
 SA> instead of throwing it and pack-raping it, but it seems that while 
 SA> the
 SA> "conservatives" do purport to reject the nanny-state when it comes 
 SA> to
 SA> social welfare, they willingly embrace a noachide nanny-state 
 SA> where 
 SA> all aspects of morality are enforced.

 AH>> Commentators made much of the fact that "moral values" ranked 
 AH>> first on the list of concerns that voters cited as most important 
 AH>> to them, surpassing the economy, terrorism and the war in Iraq. 
 AH>> Four out of five of these people voted for President Bush.

 AH>> But "moral values" is a vague concept that may not mean the same
 AH>> thing in Minneapolis as it does in Dallas or Baltimore.

 AH>> Even if you assume that the people worried about moral values want
 AH>> Mr. Dobson's brand of morality, the fact is only 22 percent of the
 AH>> electorate rank it as their chief priority. No less than 78 
 AH>> percent disagree, which is a landslide margin.

 SA> Anyone wanting to get a feel for the "moral values" these people 
 SA> are
 SA> pursuing can do the googling for themselves... it's not difficult 
 SA> to
 SA> bung in a few search terms & connect the dots.

 SA> Cheers, Steve..

 SA> -+- 
 SA>  + Origin: No to Noachides (3:800/432)


John 

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