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Skriven 2004-11-24 19:04:22 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
     Kommentar till en text av Ed Connell (1:379/1.6)
Ärende: Breaking News!
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 EC> This marine was operating in an unsecured environment.  I.e., it was
 EC> combat.

But why didn't any of his partners do anything?

 BrF>> You have a good point here and I'm not defending either. They both do
 BrF>> what they think is right but with the answer in hand it's easy to be
 BrF>> wise after the event.

 EC> When you equated the guilt, you were saying that they were operating under
 EC> similar circumstances, and that just was not the case.

Sorry, don't follow you here.

 EC> The head guy is from Jordan if I am not mistaken.

That might be so, I don't know.

 BrF>> I don't hate anyone. Trying to see that there is some good in eveyone.

 EC> In the first place, I don't think the rest of the world hates us.  Second,
 EC> that is not an issue when we decide what is right.

I don't think they hate you either but we must have the right to question your
doings when it have an impact on us or on human rights.

 BrF>> That terrorists are acting like that is no news but that US Marines are
 BrF>> acting in the same way was news.

 EC> There you go again.  The US Marines haven't acted in the same way.

We see it from different angles (did I spell that right?)

 BrF>> I'm not trying to lecture anyone, just trying to make you understand why
 BrF>> all this shit is happening to you.

 EC> What is happening to me?  Do you think I care that much that you are
 EC> wrong?

For one you have to pay more tax to finance this war and obviously you don't.

 EC> We have oppressed no one.  We have liberated 50 millilion.  Stuff that
 EC> into your pipe.

And how many did you kill in WWII, Korea and Vietnam and still are doing
in Iraq? Can this be about 10 million? They are still dying in Japan as well...
Stuff *that* into *your* pipe.

 BrF>> Ever since the Korea and Vietnam wars USA have been looked upon as the
 BrF>> World Police and with that comes a certain responsibility that you
 BrF>> haven't lived up to.

 EC> Have been looked on?  Why write in a passive mood?  To obfuscate, that's
 EC> why.

Obfuscate who?
The UN?

 EC> We do what is right.  Why should we let an organization filled with
 EC> representatives of dictators dictate to us?

Isn't good of you to have that self-esteem, never doing anything wrong.
And what dictators in the UN are you reffering to?
And why should you listen to any of the worlds 200 or 300 or whatever,
countries. Who is dictating whom?

 BrF>> Did you read what I wrote about that USA airplane which is flying around
 BrF>> in the world collecting folks everywhare and flying them to places where
 BrF>> they can be interrogated without anyone knowing what's going on? This
 BrF>> plane has visited Sweden and it's things like this that pisses us off.
 BrF>> If you should do things like that, well, do it so no one finds out and
 BrF>> not like another bloody amateur and if you do that you have to stand for
 BrF>> it.

 EC> I don't know what you are talking about and likely neither do you.

Well, I am and the former English ambassador in Uzbekistan Craig Murray is
and the Minister of Foregin Affairs in Sweden is and so are the entire UN and
your own universities are but I can understan that you don't. It's embarrassing
for you.

 EC> I'll tell you what - you and your fellows go liberate millions of people,
 EC> and then get back to me.

Will do that.

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