Text 6158, 94 rader
Skriven 2004-12-12 06:54:22 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
     Kommentar till en text av ED HULETT (1:275/311)
Ärende: Breaking News!
======================

 EH> No one said they weren't fully equiped. They want more armor on their
 EH> Humvees and
 EH> transport vehicles than they originally came with. They don't need more
 EH> armor for
 EH> most operations. The reasoning behind the request for more is that the
 EH> "insurgents"
 EH> are using 155MM artilary rounds for their IEDs. This is a new developement
 EH> and was
 EH> not anticipated when the vehicles were built.

Thanks for enlighten me and I really mean it.
That's not how it was shown on TV.

 FS>> It tells the world that we do what we *must* do and do the best we can
 FS>> with the military equipment we have.  There is *never* a perfect time to
 FS>> go to war.  In this case the belief was that Saddam posed a real threat
 FS>> and we *had* to neutralize him.  It turned out he wasn't as great a
 FS>> threat as was thought but *ironically* he *tried* to give the impression
 FS>> he was immediately dangerous and it was that which brought him down.

I see.

 BF>> mmmmm....... where the rest of USA should be...... in Hollywood.

 EH> Hollywood isn't reality.

That was my point.....

 BF>> You have said that you never take any risks and that was perhaps what
 BF>> these soldiers felt.

 EH> Being a soldier means you take risks all the time. It's part of the job.

But mot at any cost, or....?

 BF>> Can they be seeing it from my poit of wiew?
 BF>> Nothing is worth to sacrifice my life for.

 EH> Fortunately, most of those in the US military don't share your point of
 EH> view at all.

Perhaps not way back but nowdays it's like a nornal job and it isn't today as
it was in35. The youngsters all over the world are much more aware today.
My guess is that if you should ask then between 4 eyes they would say the
same as I do.

 BF>>> But I guess that someone of you will say that this is also anti-American
 BF>>> propaganda

 FS>> It is when you don't tell the *whole* story ...

 BF>> Neither you or I know the whole story.

 EH> How can you be so sure? Just because you are uninformed doesn't mean
 EH> everyone is.

I'm aware that in this matter you had more info then I had.

 BF>>> Rumsfelt wasn't even in Kuwait. That was an illution.

 FS>> Huh?

 BF>> Just like Laila Freiwalds, remember....

 EH> Rumsfeldt was in Kuwait. Sorry you can't tell reality from fantasy.

It's just that I get so frustrated at you.
When something is shown on Swedish TV and I have more info then
you have it's a lie and anti-American propaganda but when you have
the info it's all OK and I don't buy that. If I should have faith in you,
you must have some faith in me. It must be some mutual respect,
otherweise it isn't intresting to have a discussion where only one
side is the one to believe in.

 EH> I know some over there. They are heros in my eyes.

Then we don't share the meaning of the world "hero" and you must repect my
point of wiew just as I'm respecting yours.

 EH> Are you saying that September 11, 2001 wasn't a threat against US soil?

Sorry. forgot that.

 EH> Taking the fight to the enemy is the way all military say is best.

Of course it is but then do it in the right country for the right reason.
That's the way I see it and if that's a problem for you I'm willing to discuss
it
in a civilized manner without any personal attacks and without thinking
about it as an attack on USA. Otherweise I have nothing furter to say.

---
 * Origin: . (2:203/614.61)